men.

Eagles.

Tucker, doyle, sullivan, fildes, whenham .

Flames.

Webber, matthews, cooper, Eley, harbour, thompson, ottey, krause??

Lions.

Kollasch, frost, wilson. Parker, carlin.
Clarke, humphries,???

Woodville

Wilson, american?, eagel, blight, knight, reeves, birmingham, ??

North.

Bond, elliot, rowe, ????

Tigers

American, goodenough, hemmings, florence, ???

Eastern

Hill, madgen, bruce, breheney, ???

West

Spud, american, truslove, evans????

Woodville's American is Joseph, works at Wayville, just moved to Adelaide.

Forestville: Doyle, Sullivan, Fildes, Tucker, Whernham

Norwood: Matthews, Webber, Grantham, Thompson, Cooper

Centrals: Clarke, Frost, Parker, Carlin, American?

Woodville: Wilson, Birmingham, American?, Reeves, Knight

North: Elliot, Bond, Rowe, Brine, R. Carter

Southern: Goodenough, Oconner, Florence, Hemmings, American?

Eastern: A. Bruce, Madgen, Hill, Brehney, Brehney

West: Spud, Braithwaite, American?, Dowdell, Truslove

South: Boal, Hooley, Creek, D.Johnson, Pilkington

Sturt: Daly, D.Ng, Bauer, Holmes, Warbout.

likety split.

You gotta catch up brother , hooley now not eligible, Pilkinton gone to Woodville, brine not being cleared to north, gotta sit out season. Grantham gone from flames.

West is good
Tigers good
Sturt is good.
Eastern looks good.

Norwood now have Eley and harbour?
Clarke has not started a trial game for centrals all pre season.

Woodville won't start birmingham or reeves.

Spehr - college? Hooley - college? Carlin - college? (weren't these three part of the recent Emus squad? ) Any idea what colleges?

my five

Eagles
Norwood
Sturt
west
Lions

North
Eastern
Woodville
South
Southern

As far as I'm aware the NCAA rules around Spehr, Hooley and Carlin playing have changed. That is why they are sitting out this season

Explain gap year? is that the year after finishing school, if so isnt he in his gap year?

I don't see Forestville being at the top of the ladder. Norwood will be favourites with the addition of Hambour and Ely with Sturt behind them. I think Eastern will be solid and should play finals especially with the addition of Bruce to an already exciting group with Hill and Madgen.
South will rely very heavily on the two recruits in Creek and DJ especially without Hooley and Pilkington.
I think Woodville will be a big improver this year with the additions of Reeves, Birmingham, Blight and an American. I heard Pilkington tried to join Blight there but reading the above it may not happen.
I'm not that confident in West having an impact after losing Davidson, Bond and Molitor and picking up Dowdell and Braithwaite.
Centrals have lost Piddock, Reeves, Birmingham, Templeton and added another average American (from what I heard) and Frost, so I don't see them improving on last year's form.
Southern sound like they don't have a team left so my guess is they will dwell at the bottom, one American isn't going to help you win too many games especially not the ones they have recruited in the past!
My Prediction...
Norwood
Sturt
Eastern
Forestville
Woodville
West
North
South
Centrals
Southern

The Brad

your comments on the eagles are interesting considering they have smashed centrals, woodville, norwood, geelong and north in very recent practice matches.

they will be top 2 for sure.

your comments on centrals also interesting considering they have beaten north twice and woodville over the last 3 weeks. the loss to tigers was without 6 of their top 12 and they lost by 4.

I guess you need to be a little realistic though with some of those teams they have beaten in both cases. A few of those eams will have some handy inclusions from the Sixers or other NBL teams so you have to take those results with a pinch of salt.
I could be wron but I didn't think they had picked up many except for Rashard but had lost Riley, Arnold, DMT and Campbell (???). Andy always runs a tight ship so it wouldn't surprise me if they stayed in the top 5. Can you enlighten me with any roster changes they have had and who played well in those games.
How have certain players been going in these practice games?

Blair will average 15 a game for Eagles this year

The fact remains that Simmons has some very talented juniors coming through the ranks and there will be no suprise to see Forestville in the top two or three teams again. Add Rashad Tucker to the mix and they are going to be very hard to guard.

doyle smyth wernham & newland all played juniors for Eagles...

Nope jusr stating the facts...Nothing more nothing less...

So players only develop before U18's do they.

Think Ninnis, Longley, Bogart just to name a few may disagree..

Ninnis made his first state team at U20's then went onto play for the boomers...

Glad he didn't give it away once he finished U18's thinking that was it for his development..

Andy doesn't have that many juniors to chose from I don't think. There junior program is not that strong. And any sucess that Andy has had as a coach certainly has come with almost no help from their junior program! hence why he has to recruit all the time.

Yes Doyle is a good player, but he started last year so they don't gain much there.

Tim Smyth is not at ABL player, neither is Jordon Robertson. And considering they are losing Gerlach and Arnold, that is a massive loss in the 2-3 position!

Fildes back will help out there alot, although he will have to play the 4 a bit a think.

Charles Newland is certainly no Dougie. He is worse in every area especially defensively. I would expect Newland to play very limited minutes. Wornham if fit will give some rebounding presence.

Tucker is a massive in, but they lose the reigning Woolacott medalist so how much are they gaining there?

Harvey has been injured all pre season so who knows how he will play.

The eagles are going to need big seasons out of Brad Haydon and Nic Blair cos these 2 are really the only depth the eagles have.

Having said that Andy will have them playing finals...probably finish 2nd-4th(mainly because I think most teams have gone backwards since last year), but with really only 6 or 7 legit ABL players if they are unlucky with injuries it will be a different story.

Anonymous not defensive, again just dealing in facts...

Realistically how many players make regardless of whether they develop before or after U18's.

May also like to add Bradke to the list from the 80's before we move through to the 90's...

Strewth, I never knew Bogart played basketball. Man, now that's old school.

#848. Hmmm they do seem small. I think just the addition of rhys carter alone will makes them contenders, but yeh by no means a lock for finals.

I also think there is far too much pro-forestville talk here. They finished 4th last year was it? And they're a slightly weaker team in a tougher league. Saying you would be surprised if they weren't top 2 is pretty outrageous. I think they'll be around the mark, but by no means a top 2 team.
Theyre pretty weak at PG with Doyle and Harvey .. I see both players struggling to run their team and not turn the ball over when they come up against the top tier guards in:
Carter
Bruce
Daly
Webber
Matthews

You stated those guys all played juniors for eagles .. Yet you then acknowledge they moved to your club in under 18s.

Junior basketball is u10, 12, 14, 16, 18.
Under 20's (now Under 23s) isn't considered Junior ball.

They played 7 years of Junior Basketball elsewhere, and then 2 years of Junior basketball at forrestville and you wanna say they played juniors at forrestville?

Anyhow, Sturt is far and away the best junior club. Look at upcoming Grandfinals this friday. Every div1 Junior team (under 10 through to under 18), boys AND girls for sturt is in the grandfinal. EVERY SINGLE DIV 1 TEAM. I think for the first time in competition history. Not to mention Sturt won the Under 23 Grandfinal last week.

Eagles have a guy at point called Tucker let's see the above list guard him

Ummm, @Juniors, your point is valid but your last paragraph makes your argument look a bit silly. Every single Sturt Div 1 team is not in the grand final - U18 Girls didn't make it. So all that "first time in competition history" stuff was a bit irrelevant. Nonetheless, a great effort by Sturt overall.

@Juniors

Yes coz that is the facts they did play juniors at Eagles...

Not sure how else to put it to be honest...

If you want to look at Junior talent of each Club look no further than the Under 23 Competition as this showcases 5 years of Junior Development.

Sturt were the standout which is no surprise given their success at Junior level over the past 8 years but Southern were the standout as they have won nothing of note in that time yet finished 2nd and beat Forestville 3 times.

I know for Southern for the exception of 1 player in that team all others started at the Club as a Junior.
The 1 player did start but went to North for a while and is back this year.

Can that be said for all other Clubs?

wow - mavs look good

Dodman not playing , bench stinks

Tigers always say they will have strong squad in 3 to 4 years time.... Same story every year. Tiger can you say that with regards to your womens team?

Umm...how could the Mavs starting 5 have 3 NBL players?

Isn't there a rule about only 2 restricted players per team.

Or did I miss Bruce's NBL contract getting torn up?

Brad hill playing/ coach nice way to pay more money and not have it count to salary cap

I was pretty sure he had played enough games for that rule to take affect and i'm sure he averaged more than 10 minutes across the season, so my thoughts are he would be a restricted player.

He isn't a restricted player.

And by restricted I mean as a ABL restricted player, he is of course restricted by his low basketball IQ.

So what if their social life impacts in this instance? Life can't be all about basketball when you're getting paid peanuts. Get over yourself.

"Trust me" surely you can give some evidence to stand by your statement?
I did look into this a while ago but from what I knew the cut off was round 18 of the NBL season and if you had played 4 games by that round then it was based on your average minutes. Now Aaron played 7 games at the round 18 mark and from my rough calculations has averaged more than the 10 minutes (25% of game time) to become a required player.
Therefore according to the By Laws up on the BSA website he is classified as a "required player".... I would therefore like to know what details you may have...

Will add, you seem quite in the loop on a lot of things "The Brad" but trust me, Bruce is unrestricted.

@Juniors -

if your going to get stuck in so bad about Sturt being in every Div 1 game... Get the facts wrong because you are wrong.

U18 girls Div 1 - Eastern v Norwood

.......... Nuff said

The Brad, cut of is not as at round 18 but in early Jan.

Bruce at the cut of had played 3 games but needed to play 4 to be considered under the Restricted Player Rule.

He is therefore unrestricted...

I know that Sturt won't have their best team this weekend. No Darren, Jacob, Daly (sixers wouldn't clear him to play)

If the way that Mavs team has been organised just the biggest load of cheating possible.

1. Player coach while a previous coach sits on the bench. Great way to cheat the salary cap.

2. The bench coach is the same person who will be clearing players from the 36ers to other teams. I wonder how many 36ers will be cleared in the first couple of rounds that are playing them?

3. Funny how the person who does the contract negotiations gets a player from the 36ers playing for his team. And how many other clubs were after them and told that sorry they can't have him.

4. I wonder if this team misses out on finals, if all 36er players will not be allowde to play due to "pre season" reason, and if that will change if they are in the finals.

Any one got any other.

I hope all the other clubs boycott future 36er events.

I saw a couple games at wayville today. Decent standard. Norwood and sturt should play in the grandfinal tomorrow (5.40pm wayville) as both are 2 wins zero losses. I think Norwood will win because theyre running with almost a full lineup whilst sturt are pretty depleted.

Let's get one thing clear, I have no problem with Aaron playing at Eastern or anywhere for that matter. I think it's great for the league to have someone of his calibre playing locally. All I was doing was going by the Basketball Australia By Laws on the ABA central conference (which we are not even a part of anymore!) website. You will clearly see that rule number 7.6 States that "The date used to calculate available court time shall be round 18 of the NBL.."
Now if Eastern have somehow gotten around this then good for them. If Basketball Australia have stated Aaron is not a restricted player then may be they need to read their own By Laws!
Maybe if they are happy to change that rule for an Eastern Player they could convince Larry to change the Rookie rule for another one!

Men: Norwood defeat sturt in the grandfinal by 20 odd. Close in the first half, then blew it out.
Best for norwood: Jennings, Ely, D. Webber(somehow)

Women: Sturt beat norwood in the grandfinal, though I think the original grandfinal was Sturt vs West, but because they had already played each other they agreed to change opponents - so bit of an irrelevant gf.