I hear that Tess Madgen has signed wth Centrals and have recruited one more WNBL player.

I think you may see a very different Panthers line up this season.

think you will find they are leaving Tigerland cause the club wont put any money into the program and is running on a shoestring !
More interested in being a bank and saving $$$ rather than trying to win and promote bball down South !

heard Panthers may also be close to getting Creek !

Interested

How does a Club Junior program benefit if you win an ABA flag?

no one is going to get rich playing ABA, if your'e playing for money you are playing for the wrong reasons

Panthers may have a very good chance of getting Creek along with Aaron Bruce joining other Horsham boys Cam Bruce and Jeremy Read.
They are all good friends so wouldn't surprise me.

Interested, Well that would be a first for Southern / Noarlunga not to spend stupid amounts of money on their senior men. Perhaps they are learning or need to put all their money into their full time Basketball Manager?

Looks like the teams next season should be pretty good across the board with the inflow of the Sixers players. Has Sam Harris signed anywhere yet?

luke frost has moved to lions from south, round 1 proposed is south v lions at plex. Gary birmingham and Zane reeves gone back to coachless warriors.

I think having to play under Brenton last year would have be enough to make her want to move!

I heard that Norwood were chasing Burdon pretty hard, dunno if that has any legs to it or if its just a rumour.

burdon def a rumour read the borderwatch newspaper, he has resigned with mount gambier.

Burdon signs on for second season with Pioneers
Posted on November 29, 2010, 10:10am
Coming on the back of the revamped branding of the Mount Gambier Pioneers, the region's premier basketball team are pleased to announce they have re-signed guard Erik Burdon for the upcoming 2011 South East Australian Basketball League season.

Burdon is highly experienced player, having not only participated in the Australian Basketball Association, but is also a former member of the Adelaide 36ers, competing in the National Basketball League.
This will be Burdon’s second season with the Pioneers and to be able to retain his services is a step in the right direction if the club is to continue moving forward.

Burdon was highly sought after by other SEABL and ABA clubs but cited his enjoyment of the system the Pioneers have put in place as a major reason behind him re-signing.

"The decision to sign was easy. The club is heading in the right direction both on and off the court," Burdon said.

“It’s exciting times ahead for the 2011 season, we have a great coach that keeps improving my game and we have a tight knit playing group which is fun to train and play with every week,” he said.

Burdon was a starting guard in the 2010 season where he averaged 14 points, three rebounds and three assists per game.

Twice during the season Burdon achieved a high score of 25 points against both Ballarat and Canberra, and also led the side in free throw percentage, shooting at 87pc.

To cap off Burdon’s stellar season, he was invited to travel to China with the SEABL All-Stars team, yet another reason why he will be a valuable member of the Pioneers’ 2011 campaign.

Head coach Andrew Summerville said he was excited Burdon had decided to join the Pioneers for another season.

“He is a quality player and a quality individual that will only make our program stronger.” he said.

“Having seen Erik play in the past for the 36ers, I know what he is capable of and I know we only saw him at about 75pc this year.”

Summerville said it took Burdon a while to adjust to the strength of the SECBL and after playing limited minutes with the 36ers, it was always going to take him a year of big minutes with the Pioneers to get his game up to where it can be.

“I know I can go to him at any time, we have a great relationship, we trust each other and he is a pleasure to coach,” Summerville said.

“I’m expecting this year to be a break out year for Erik.”

So are West Under 23's Girls

Leave her alone - the game is Bigger than 1 person are we ALL jealous of her and envious of her ability to play the game. She has worked hard from her younger years practicing ALL the time. Stop being bitter

Brenton got harshly dealt with at mavs, a very good coach that had very little to work with. Wish him all the best.

No Forestville jibes yet........what the

Im still trying to put my ear to railway track and hear if Sam is still at West(its still not a merger,when will people read)Adelaide.She has moved her Tv to Dandenong as far as I could hear?
The West womens coach hasnt been gas bagged either!

West coach already been named. And no its not Sam. She is staying in Melbourne. Its a dark horse that I think will surprise most people when it is officially released.

Until then speculate away...........

Come on Phantom, it's all too easy to say you know something when you don't, how about a cryptic clue if you know!

Wow Scott Ninnis or Phil Smyth is coaching the women!

Whoops misread that previous post, my bad!

Vince may be back

Would love to see either of those blokes coach a team

The Brad, saw an article in the Messenger recently about Smyth being development/psychology coach for his daughter's netball team.

Yep, Phil has the role of 'Player Development & Mentor' for the Premier League team (State League - same level as ABL) for the Western Jets Netball Club.

http://www.westernjets.com/premier-league.html

News from Norwood has been quiet.

Men: A new coach in Brad Davidson and with the retirement of David Cooper, will we see someone sit on the bench as a new assistant coach?

Who else from the men has retired? or will they find enough oil for their wheelchairs and walking frames for one more season?

Women: 2010 season saw a few injuries, drops out and interstate moves - are we correct in assuming the Norwood career of at least 2 high profile players is definitely over?

Kobe-for-MVP - is that you Brenton? Seriously, no one else would be that delusion to say that.

Yep good call, they just got promoted into that league, so its like Div 2.

Anothr high profile coach going into that type of role, Jan Stirling does it for Port Power. I would have thought that Phil could have gone a little bit higher than State League netball though with the connections he has. But I guess he is doing it as a bit of a favour because it's his daughters team.

so nothing has happened really over the summer!!!

Agreed Anon, although I don't know about listing Deb Wilcox with the likes of Francis, Madgen and Williams. Brenton had plenty to work with in his time at Eastern. You don't ever get given a team of superstars on a silver platter, you get players at different levels and the job of a coach is to pull them together and make them play well as a unit.
The guy is so amateur and clueless it's a joke.
Bet Eastern's committee is glad they held onto him last season because as a result they've almost lost their entire ABL team. Good decision!

Vicki Vaulk to coach West Women...

Will we see some movement from Norwood to West, or do transfers only go eastwards? (and southwards)

you can only recruit 2 required players max and only one from a club so unless they are removed from the list clubs can hold there clearance up.

Tess Madgen confirmed at Centals and Jess Mahony looking like heading there also. Plus a gil from the AIS. Georgia or Olivia - dont know as yet.

Centrals have done some great recruiting in the off season.

Salary cap issues?????

who is coaching centrals women ?

those 2 for centrals make sense cause they are originally from close country areas

Tony Moore is the centrals womens coach, salary cap not being breached. players dont always leave clubs for the money.

eagles will throw plenty at Jess to stay, if it was $$ related she wouldnt leave I'm sure.

Centrals program the big spenders in 2011...

Forestville (as do other clubs) need to curb spending in a program that plays players from other clubs and pays them.

Also hear the Mia might be going,Jess to Centrals for sure, but everyone thinks Georgia will play at Eagles.

Interesting year for Simons family and will test their coaching with a lot of retirements and movements.

eagles still very much in the hunt for rashaad tucker and some 36er players

Bang, I would not be surprised if a lot of non-aligned Sixers players manage to miraculously end up at Forestville.

Vicki Valk was introduced to players as the new Bearcats ABA Womens coach today, due to unavailability of Sam Woosnam with her opportunities to remain in Victoria.
A positive move for West with many young players coming through and Vicki's determination to provide opportunities for Juniors
Reg Grantham will be the Assistant Coach and has already provided the club with premierships.
Things are looking good for mens & womens program in 2011

Dodman playing footy this season

Big rumour is that Dee Ranford will make a comeback in 2011 for the Eagles..

084 At least he has the courage to put his head on the chopping block, for useless cowards like you to try and chop off anonymously. Perhaps you can tell us what your coaching credentials are, I would be most interested in knowing what club, if any have been stupid enough to appoint you.

Anon 304031 - yes he was...

Have heard that West woman's coach is Glenn Shaw and Eastern is Bill Wilson??
Don't know if true but that's what I've heard!

I can confirm that Vicki valk is the west womens coach! Anything else is just not true.

Bill Wilson new Mavs Coach.

hey Phantom (3 posts ago) get ur own nick name.

There almost needs to be a listing of names somewhere, or a way to stop people from posting under your name!

One day I will do it.

I don't thik you ever need to worry about Forestville not playing whilst Andy is there. Seems to run a very good ship each year and with those young kids named will still be up and running. The fact that he can now also go for one or two players with NBL experience because of the retirements will only benefit the group.
I ave heard from a very good source that Rashard Tucker is a definite for them and I know Andy has been chasing Daniel Johnson quite hard with the help of Marty Clarke, but I think he may have signed already elsewhere...
Don't be surprised to see Rhys Carter go to North, but may have to play a very limited role due to his ongoing back issues.
It seems Marty is trying to help out both Tracey and Andy seeing as they have helped him out throughout the year.

who will be playing for the tiger men? any new recruits, will they be getting any of the sixer players?

To the other Phantom. Sorry mate but I've had this alias on here for at least two years!
So I think its you that need to change!! :)

Whoah!

There's only one way to decide this, a game of HORSE!

Hey Phantom, send me an sms (you have my number still?) then I will announce to the forum which posts are by the real Phantom (even though I don't believe in ghosts).

Problem saved.

DOH! Problem solved, not saved.

Sorry Pickles I don't have your number only your cousins B.W.
Will catch on facebook to catch up what you been up to and what happened up the hill?

It's ok I'll change my alias and Pickles DOH is correct and you are a teacher.

lmao, I miss hoops for half a day and all this happens. damn. Thanks Phantom / Robo. hahahaha

Same team as Mia Newley??

So womens coaches next are:
West - Vicki Valk
South - Vikki Kelson
Sturt - Chris Lucas
Mav's - Bill Wilson
Norwood - Simon Pritchard
Woodville - Karen Winter
Southern - Willie Jenette
North - Tanya Dhu
Centrals - ?????

sorry for any spelling mistakes.
This looks to me as a good group of coaches for the womens comp!
I don't know who got the Centrals job could someone let me know.

Central's coach is Tony (Navy Seal) Moore.

With Jess, Tess and Georgia signed at Centrals think the league should start worrying a little.

My pick is for Eastern to pick up the wooden spoon this year. Not because they are crap (which they wont be), but because they will be a young group still developing.

Woodville may struggle with a new coach? Maybe teh battle will be between Eastern and Woodville for teh spoon?

Gee I thought Kevin Brooks had the Centrals Women's job?

no other applicants?

georgia is playing for forestville

Lions women have picked up 2 former Halls medal winners in one day. wow wow and triple wow.

Playa lists yet anyone??

And this is the kind of thing that happens at Centrals every 5 years for the last 20 years.

Use all your money to bring in ABA players hopeing for a payoff after winning the title.

After 1 or 2 years, the junior parents work out that they would be better of moving clubs because all their money is going to a couple of ABL players.

Junior quit and go elsewhere and the club goes back down the drain. How would you feel being a junior coach or junior director knowing that a coule of players are going to be paid more than you to play 18 games?

Go watch a Mavs D1 U18 Girls team for their Girls ABL list.

Sorry - Sorry but I dont agree. Having played at sport at this level for nearly 10 years, both for a bottom end club and a championship club, I think this is smart by Centrals. Big name players draws other players. Lifts the skill level of all those around them and people work harder and have better attitudes. Keeps the kids interested and working hard, thinking one day they too will be like 'Tess'. I can say this from personal experience.

Its about time they did something, and you all have been saying that for a long time. Now they are doing something, you are bagging them too! Cant win!

And, as mentioned previously, you dont know for a FACT if those players are being paid and how much... or do you????

Libra Girl,

People talk, players talk to their friends, agents talk to multiple clubs.

This is the kind of thing that has sunk clubs for years.

It gives the ABA team a boost for a year. Tess isn't going to be in Adelaide forever, what happens when she leaves? Look at how the Erin Phillips signing worked out for them.

Really, what happens when she gets a call up into the Aussie squad for a tour? Or camps?

Then she goes? She's not the whole team? She is a big part of the team!

Bottom line is that they can only benefit from this. Things seemed pretty average there, and something like this is a huge positive.

A few years ago I begged my club to pay a decent player (or 2) to boost the club!

The current group at Centrals, plus the up and coming juniors, will learn so much from these new experienced players.

If you want to climb to the top, you have to start somewhere.

they have 3 other players recruited apart from tess, surely jess mahoney will make a few of the lions girls better players.

Anyone know who is coaching Woodville Men...

Has an appointment been made yet...

who is it then..

When did players pick a coach...

hey apparently the Woodville men's coach has signed . Any news on who it is. Hope they went with experience and not someone green.

Come on leaky Woodville who is it.

I heard it maybe a former coach returning.

I thought Ricky Simpson got the nod a long time back

Bugger it here goes ill announce it.

Al green is the new men's coach at Woodville signed on the weekend and at practice tonight.

He has started to tell others so now you all know. Guess Woodville not proud enough to announce it.

First order of business is Rashaad tucker.

not bitter at all just thought the warriors would have come out on the front foot and announced it.

most insiders have known for 48 hours and still nothing.

reckon he will be good for the group.

Bang, If most insiders knew for the last 48 hrs, which clearly included you, why didn't you announce it over the weekend...

Clearly you don't have any alegience to Woodviile so why wait...

Hasn't Tucker already hooked up with the Eagles...

Tucker is a definite for the Eagles. Has been with the group since the start of preseason.

The reason it wasnt announced Coach you idiot was so Al had time to inform Torrens Valley himself of his move so they didnt find on on here or through the grapevine. It wasnt announced for that reason and that reason alone. So coach/anon, you can keep your snide bitter comments to yourself becasue its getting old. not our fault you werent getting the job done

Is that the final nail in the coffin for Torrens Valley?

Congrats to Al Green if this is true. I know a lot of the former South boys have a lot of respect for him as a coach when he coached them in juniors.
Will definitely make things interesting though with Rashard Tucker. I know a friend asked Andy if Rashard had signed and he said no. Not sure if Andy was keeping his cards close to his chest or if he was just being honest. He has been training with them though but who knows if he has signed anything.
If he hasn't signed anything, my guess is he will be with Woodville.

Take Luck,

Exactly what job was it that I wasn't getting done...

Torrens Valley found out Sunday so again why the delay....

Maybe North should check the rules out first re Brine...

ok then lets sit and wait for the warriors to make the official announcement . Just checked their website , nothing under warrior breaking news.

Al was telling people sunday so it must be official to him.

Wow, 164 posts on an ABL thread, almost 3 months before the season starts!

Does this mean that the Sixers and Lightning aren't doing very well?

If the 36ers and Lightning were doing well, I think there'd be less talk about them and even more about this!

True Isaac,

I was just reminiscing about the days of "Whats Hot, What's Not", "Panther", "The Awnser", "The Men in Black" (or whatever that group of tigers supporters called themselves), when the ABL was drawing regular interest on this forum.

If as many 36ers players stay in Adelaide through winter as is forecast, this may lead to a return to some excitement being generated league wide.

A large number of coaching changes always seems to see some player movement too.

I just hope most clubs are able to provide Live Stats this coming season, to keep the interest going.

'8',how can you be so sure about that...

Al has made it quite clear that he will be making a run for Rashaad Tucker.

Although some weeks behind the eagles, Tucker has not signed with the eagles so Al will be a shot for sure.

Might need wilson and co to take a pay cut though, tucker not cheap I'm sure.

Panther & Coach, why do you think Tucker will go with Woodville over the Eagles...

Al has made it clear in the past they he has a very strong commection with tucker.

Tucker has put off signing with Eagles for too long for it to be a done deal.

warriors announce Al's signing in their latest newsletter (website) right after the article about their womens coach having their first child. Mother and baby doing well by the way.

Thats all great however you may still like to check the rules of the competition...

firstly he is contracted and secondly a required player.

Needs to be allowed out of his contract signed about 8 weeks ago.

Tigers are only required to clear 2 required players in off season. Seems boal to south and tristan to west fill that requirement. So really tigers could sit on the clearance and make him sit out the season. There also seems to be a required recruitment letter missing.

firstly he is contracted and secondly a required player.

Needs to be allowed out of his contract signed about 8 weeks ago.

Tigers are only required to clear 2 required players in off season. Seems boal to south and tristan to west fill that requirement. So really tigers could sit on the clearance and make him sit out the season. There also seems to be a required recruitment letter missing.

that sounds like the rules...

Will Tigers & Rockets negotiate & not have a player sit out if he doesn't want to play there anymore if what 'Bang' stipulates above is accurate.

Sounds like good news for the Warrior men. Can anyone fill me in on Al's coaching background? I know he does the kids camps and has coached at Torrens Valley for a long time. Has he coached ABL or SEABL or before? If so, how did he go? He seems to always get his Torrens Valley guys to play hard even though they dont have the talent other teams have.

Coached South ABL Women for a few years, including one Grand Final appearance. (He was also South's JDO during the same period)

I can't remember when he finished up at South, I think it may have been 2004 or 2005 (I do remember that he and Mark Davis were coaching ABL at the same time at South and Mark's only season was 2004. Kaye-lee Elsdon was Coach for one season, then Glenn Shaw took over, but I'm not sure how many years Glenn coached for either!)

I think it was seasons 2002, 2003, and 2004

Some ppl need to actually know some background to stories before making comments i think. The reason I have heard from players that have left and others that are still there in regards to Southern is more about the club itself and the lack of talent and depth of the squad. Hey look at the poor response the club gets on this forum! Don't believe it has anything to do with who is coaching and being mates with coaches.

West have gone from an Abl team mainly of west players to a team full of imports from oter clubs, over the last few years thier Abl side was home grown but now alot of new faces, What dose this say about thier development?

Rashard Tucker played on Monday night for Forestville in a trial game.

I hear Central's ABL Women Dream Team is not going to become a reality. Madgen has changed her mind about joining Centrals & i hear that Mahony will be playing at Norwood. Making Norwood overloaded at the Point Guard position i.e. Mahony, McDermott & Hansberry all fightning each other for minutes!

I think your right CP3 about big troubles in little china.

Your not quite accurate with the destinations of the 2 players concerned.

I think you will find 1 player is likely to follow Chris Lucas the other?

Surely Mahoney would remain with the Eagles now things dont seem as they were supposed to be at the Salary Cap lions..

she left eagles in the first place because she wasnt happy, why go back just because she is not staying at the lions

eagle nest looks jealous that his eagles can't land any serous recruits this year.

He can have DJ and bet Bruce won't be playing here, he will be doing pre-season for the kings.

Heard a rumour the tigers have recruited from America

This is the same coach that has sprouted junior development from the roof tops for so long..

Funny as soon as he gets a senior job that goes out the window and recruiting appears to have taken over from junior development..

Those not getting court time will be those that play behind all of his recruits...

Good luck Boal and Wise in particular...

i would think rashaad tucker is a pretty good recuit for the eagles??

How has Tony gone away from his youth policy? He will probably have 2 players over the age of 25 in McKenzie and Pilkington. He has a list that includes 4 under 20 state players, and has potentially recruited another under 20 player and a bloke who is 23 years old.
With older players such as Frost and Blight leaving the roster has got a lot younger. How young do you want him to go???
And if I was an Eagles supporter I wouldn't go sprouting about buying a championship when we all know your players majority of which have been recruited (Pero, Riley, Arnold, Sullivan, Gerlach, Oakley, Blair, Hoban and that's only the last 5 years) have been getting paid under the table for years!

Yes thats right 4 under 20 state players that he selected...A first in Souths history...

Regardless of whether or not they played state, the statement was he is going away from his "youth policy", so are you saying if he didn't select them in the state team they would automatically tun 30??? Dickhead!

'The Brad', who exactly were you pointing your comments towards...

I believe I mentioned 'Junior Development' not Youth Policy.

Oh yea, add Pilkington to the list of South guys that will be pushed back down the bench..

One of the problems currently at South is they don't have a lot coming through under 18's. They had a good group come through in Lachlan Prest, Isaiah Omamogho and Ryan Gardner over th last 2 years and then it goes dry for a while. They may only get one ABL standard player over the next 4 years come out of juniors so I don't see a problem recruiting some young guys who want to have a crack at ABL level. Both Hooley and Wise have been training with ABL groups and are looking at opportunity and development rather than money.
It would be a different story if he went out and offered someone like a Arnold or Gerlach big cash to come across. He has recruited young players to "develop", so I don't think he has gone away from Junior Development at all. Like I said, he has 4 Under 20's state players (whether he selected them or not) which are still classified as juniors that he will develop and to add to that group a quality senior player like Boal who has been considering the move down the hill for a couple of years can only help with the development of guys like Isaiah and Ryan.

nah no hate at all...& i don't really care just expressing an opinion which most do in this forum..

Tess Madgen signed with Sturt!!!!

if she signed with Sturt that surely means 3 restricted players, marino was let go because they had 2 all ready. So who is not playing for Tess to play??

I'm laughing. Until all ABA Squads have been formally signed up and have the BSA rubber stamp on the playing agreement, anyone could be playing anywhere. The comings and goings at each club are speculation until this time. South men are a classic, one minute the team is the Gazman and assorted drinking buddies pulled from the barstools of the Marion Hotel coached by one of their mums, the next it is the Horsham Hornets with Harold Miner as guest import and prodigal son Scotty Ninnis as coach assisted by Marty Clarke, with Jared Kimber as Team Manager.

With a month to go before tipoff, I can't wait to see exactly who is playing where, who's in, who's out, and more importantly, who's "bitchin' 'bout it on Hoops"

Hey Jack, I take offence to that, i'm no one's Mum!!! ;)

Sorry Panther, I used that as an example because there is so much speculation whether South will resemble the Sixers "B Team", or not.....

So who can we expect will suit up this season?

well south will hardly be the sixers b team far from it they are trying to rebuild and get it back to the glory days. Tony and co have done a great job on revamping the whole team even if they are young if forestville or sturt were trying to recruit sixers players no one would bat an eye lid. they will surprise alot of teams this year...

seems warrior men have had another south big guy attend a practice session this week.

Man al green will have jason baylis out of retirement next

langford and madgen only restricted players - so that is 2 - the others are not.

are the cunningham sisters staying in town ? - they would be a good signing.

seb wise quit and hooley done during to ncaa regulations . Pilkinton gone to Woodville

Someone here is just trying to dig the boot in any way they can (Hi Sweens). A lot of fiction being posted on this thread, very little fact.

Fact according to todays paper has 2 sixers at south...