Agree,

The NBL should not be playing Friday night games in Melbourne and Adelaide, while juniros are on.

Just plain dumb. Hopefully they learn and programe better.

I think it's to do with venue availability and the need to accommodate the Doomsday Doubles (e.g., in this case, Townsville play in Adelaide on the 3rd and then Perth on the 5th). So, not dumb, just awkward.

... and it's good to see BSA working well with the NBL ......

Is there any sensible reason why this round of juniors could not be rescheduled to Sunday like the last clash?

Issac, they could easily play Sat/Sunday, just like they did for 20 years. Or play Perth Friday while juniors are on in Adelaide because they aren't in Perth.

Jack Toft, because of the cost to BSA. They lose $1.5K in court hire from club trainings. Plus about $2.5K in door takings on Sundays because of players and amilies having other things on. Add that up over 5/6 rounds and BSA could fix Hillcrest court 2.

The situation can't occur next season

Venue availability, teams wanting a gap between games. They don't pick dates just to piss off district clubs - there are reasons. BSA and 36ers issued a joint media release about the situation earlier in the year.

I would suggest that the NBL and BA didn't even consider the impact on crowds nor economic loss to NBL clubs. But rather expect BSA and VJBL to reschedule at their own loss.

I would suggest that you're wrong. Of course they would have considered it, but venue availability is kinda crucial when it comes to hosting a game. The 36ers have clashed in the past with United, etc - it happens.

From BSA/36ers:

To avoid any clashes with local leagues, the 36ers asked the NBL not to scheduled games on Friday nights, however the unavailability of the Perth Wildcats facility meant that the 36ers would be scheduled to have 7 home games on Friday nights.

Perth and Adelaide are treated as one road trip with visiting teams playing Adelaide on Friday then Perth on Sunday on most occasions.

The NBL schedule meant that 36ers games would clash against the local competition on 5 occasions. Basketball SA has been able to move one of the games but not the other 4.

There are other methods of avoiding clashes.

Maximise the number of games played over the 6 weeks of games over Christmas. Play some early Saturday games in Perth and Monday games in Adelaide. When the TV schedule allows. Get creative and have another option for the road trip. For NZ they could play Perth/Sydney or for Cairns too. As they dont have direct flights from Perth anyway.

Poor organisation and not thinking outside the square, It may cast a bit more, but the league may be better off.

Monday games! See how you go suggesting that one to the league.

Issac, no worse than Thursday night games.

Which the 36ers do begrudgingly all of once this season. Anyway, let me know how you get on with the NBL when you propose this plan.

Do you even go to 36ers games?

Isaac is correct. venue availability is one issue, but TV is the other. This years schedule is heavily biased for Friday and Sunday. That is when one HD are going to broadcast.

From what I understand the league tried to schedule 2 games each friday/Sunday to give One HD Broadcast choice. This leaves very few games outside of those timeframes.

Its a matter of who you are beholden to, and a 5 year TV deal was worth the league being beholden to i'm afraid!

Anyway, all you guys have argued that FTA would build crowds again, I don't see the issue (yes, sarcastic).

castillo, your logic is perverse. the league has spread out the season this year, playing 14 home games over 25 weeks instead of the previous 21 or so. This gives a better run of home and away games and better chance at marketing in between games (and this btw will have more impact on building crowds than anything else this year). If you start compacting those , especially in the busy pre-xmas/new year period, then you lose the benefit of that. Your thinking is not outside the square or creative, it shows you don't understand the economics and promotability of the fixture generally.

I agree with Anonymous above - went to the friday night sixers game and the only district kids there were the ones that go week in and out. Didnt see too many district kids that dont generally go to the games. There was also no incentive offered to the district kids to attend - eg free entry or reduced entry. All it did was stuff up Saturday night where kids and parents had to be home early to play games the next day.

Point is reprogramming the district games did not bring those kids to the 36ers game. That should have been the whole point of the exercise. Encourge the district kids to attend.

I have heard a figure of 20% of the crowd being associated with district basketball. There are around 600 kids playing on a Friday night, so about 120 would normally go to the game and have tickets and about 480 are sitting at home.

Now Calisto 15 reminded us that BSA would be losing $4K from "lost" court hire and parents and grandparents not rolling up because they are at church.

Using the assumption that the kids who would normally play on a Friday are roaming the streets of Unley running wild, burning down brush fences, vandalising bus stops and getting up to mischief, why wouldn't BSA and the Sixers work together.

Here's how it goes. The nosebleed section is rarely full, unless Rupert "the cartoonist" Sapwell brings along a couple of hundred kids he is babysitting at his camp, many of whom have been dropped off by busy parents looking for cheap childcare during school holidaze. The game is being televised and there is nothing worse than seeing empty stands - the guy picking his nose, or the fat chick feeding her face with a greasy hotdog really stands out then.

Why would you not make these tickets available to clubs for say $15 a pop. The club gets $5, Sixers get $5 and BSA gets $5.

Assuming that brings in an extra 50 kids + parents per club, it's a good fundraiser of say $500 to $750 per club, and BSA recoup the "lost" $4K

Kids tickets at the gate in the silver section 14 under are $11.00 need to make the tickets cheaper to encourage the kids to come

Ok, but you get the drift.

There's a pretty big "Too Hard" basket sometimes

no whinging - just stating obvious.Sixers need as much support as possible, so why are games clashing.
Need to build the product not put hurdles in the way.
Creative programing promotion - if want to renew interest cant have restrictions to stop otherwise just becomes too hard why bother.
Limited opportunities need to make the most of them -surely thats good cents

If only a few hundred people are affected it is a non-issue.

If you moved the games to Thursday you would lose more people than that. If you move the games to Saturday and the Sixers dont get TV exposure, the club loses out much more in terms of sponsorship than a few hundred ticket sales.

Whatever time you put the game on there will be people who cant attend. There are 10 of 14 home games that dont clash with district basketball, that is a good result.

Fair point by Anon '233. And also by paul - Friday night putting their sponsors on One HD would be valuable to Adelaide.

Di's boy has done well (I won't go into the joke about his mother's ring) and I'm sure he won't have it in a knot for long.