ringlord
Years ago
Just looking at CLUB FIXTURES today at basketball SA,and i must say most clubs have built up in numbers from last season-good work everybody. I'm wondering why it is so ,extra advertising/36ers on free to air tv/or something else.Whatever it is keep it going on!
Are you including Youth League?
I am more worried about U 10's and U12's where the number of teams seems lower than the past 10 years. I hope this is not a sign of the future - both participation and quality as players move from social or scholl basketball later in life and hence may be missing out on some of the fundamentals
Couldn't be further from the truth, as district basketball has several issues and numbers is one. More clubs than I can recall cant field teams in div 1 across all age groups. Under 18's etc are filling in to make numbers in some U23's and the same players rotate in most clubs through reserves and 23's.
Two or 3 of the well known clubs have 2 or 3 teams in each division which simply reinforces the need for zoning.
Any 5an listener might have heard Ben Hook lamenting how the local top golf clubs poach the struggling clubs best junior players and he could have been talking about basketball. Basketball has to address how to best to develop a competitive district scene and do it quick.
BSA's greedy grab for so much basketball and the murky magic, west/ woodville fiasco cover a multitude of ills and when you drive past schools the kids are playing soccer not basketball.
Phobos 56
Years ago
Let's welcome back to the HoopsSA forum, the one and only ZONING MAN! Faster than a metro coach's car speeding through the country on a recruiting trip. More powerful than Sturt and Forestville combined. Able to leap tall girls who shouldn't be in Australian teams over shorter ones.
Phobos you clown.
There are a lot more than one person in favour of zoning.
Problem is none of us are at Sturt or Forestville so it will never happen.
.
Years ago
we opted to drive accross town to play for one of the big clubs and have not looked back. we left a div 1 team and mainly played div 2 (some div 1 aome div 3).
if we had been zoned my kids would have left basketball because of the absoloute schmozzle the other club repeatedly dished up from coaching, volunteer management, organizational skills, people management etc.
my kids are adults now - but they had many years of enjoyable basketball at the large club.
anon
Years ago
how about a breakdown club by club - think find that not all is will in Denmark
. the point is by not zoning those clubs will continue to be a mess because they spend all their time trying to fight off other clubs.
Smaller/weaker clubs will never improve because people will do what you did, coaches will do what you did and volunteers at the weaker clubs will never get their heads above water.
By zoning the kids, those weaker clubs can recruit and actively find new talent, playing and coaching within their area instead of fighting off the big clubs from stealing the limited resources and players they currently have.
. you've just proved why zoning works, not why it won't.
Titan 28
Years ago
How will they 'find' this new talent due to zoneing?
And what is stopping those disgruntled players from leaving the port altogether and going to football and netball?
Working with schools, miniball programs, junior social programs etc
Yes they could and should do those things now. But most clubs have limited resources and are forced to spend their time and effort trying to keep the numbers they have.
Also when you have 2 or 3 clubs visiting one school it becomes ridiculous.
.
Years ago
zoning will be just like restricting one division one team to all member clubs to raise the standard.
rather than some clubs having the possibility of 2 div 1 teams.
that has not really worked.
pro / rel like most other sporting codes - facts are facts it is a competition we play in
.
Years ago
"Also when you have 2 or 3 clubs visiting one school it becomes ridiculous."
creates competition and choices for the families.
good to see the school supporting basketball
Maybe we would attract more people to the sport if BSA put programming out further ahead than 3 days prior to the next game!!!
Jack Toft
Years ago
There are a number of reasons why zoning should be in place and so for why is should not.
However, there should be a recognised zone in place and if you are new to the sport, you should be encouraged to participate an start off at your nearest club. Now things might not work out at that club (personality clash, too many guards in an age group, lots of reasons...), but once you have given it a go, by all means transfer to clubs.
If you live at Henley Beach and go to Henley High School, then I would suggest the nearest club is Woodville. Give 'em a go and if you don't like it, go to Sturt after that.
Titan 28
Years ago
If the local club does not encourage you to join their club, but another club does that is not too far away. How would you even know that the closer club exists?
Jack Toft
Years ago
That's half the problem! There's no co-ordination.
If school visits WERE co-ordinated like the AFL does, perhaps things would be better
Titan 28
Years ago
But who i going to do clinics? Some clubs dont bother and expect players just turn up at their door. Football has massive numbers of players from amaetur leagues and coaches from AFL with tv rights to pay for it. What does basketball have if clubcs cant do it themsleves?
ITK
Years ago
Club based domestic comps is the answer, draw the kids in on their push bikes, as long as the clubs only want to focus on the higher divisions this rubish will continue.
More numbers to draw from
More interest in the sport
ITK, there isn't the interest in basketball with the kids that there used to be. Our numbers playing basketball have been fudged with the same people playing multiple in teams.
Domestic comps are good but need to been more organized in that Adelaide could probably handle only 4. East, West North and South and each district club could then contribute to running it and doing justice to it. However the notion of sharing is foreign to S A basketball.
ha ha
Years ago
Most clubs have pretty poor lower division coaches,thus many kids give up very quickly.
You need to be a registered user to post from this location. Register here.
Advertise on Hoops to a very focused, local and sports-keen audience. Email for rates and options.
An Australian basketball forum covering NBL, WNBL, ABL, Juniors plus NBA, WNBA, NZ, Europe, etc | Forum time is: 8:55 pm, Fri 22 Nov 2024 | Posts: 968,026 | Last 7 days: 754
