G'day Panther! Mase was sensational in the mid-week A grade final. It was like watching John Rillie lead Norwood to the ABL final at the Powerhouse many years ago - he just destroyed them singlehandedly until losing his cool for a moment in the last quarter. That said, he was great (note to self - he should be in the purple and gold!).

J-Will is low on confidence. 'Nuff said. Once he gets going he'll be fine, but he appears a bit out of sorts. Give him time - he's been sidelined for a long time.

Mase's shooting just wasn't there but then again, it's not really his thang. He's a down n dirty hustler.

Was a sensational game - one of the best I've seen for a long time. You should've been here for it (Whitmore nearly made it but pulled the plug at the last minute ..... soft).

i am suprised the pioneers got that close to ballarat. derek was just about the only guy that played well. Jason williams needs to seriously lift his game, that was shocking. we need u back jb, a bit of cougars 2004 premiership action again. much love

Lil Dmac, don't go dissing Dallas and Jamie Holmes though. They are heart and soul at the minute. Give this team a few weeks together to gel, and they could go places this year. They miss Sedlock a lot.

Yes your right Dallas did have a good game. That was the first game i have seen this year and obviously i was expecting too much this early in the season. Lets hope we can repeat 2003 championship winning form to get Mount Gambier back on the map!!!! ps go cougars, you are going down next season Moses.

Dmac, we can't do down any further next season. We already finished last ..... or as I like to tell people ..... we finished 4th.

C'mon guys...... Bulldogs 2004/05 Summer Season Champs!!!!

Its always going to be tough with Sedlock on the Sidelines and i think the results without the american show this team is one which will do some damage. To beat kilsyth over there and loose to both ballarat and albury/wodonga by a couple really isnt that bad!

Mase was awersome in that grand final.... his hots were droppin from all over the floor! I have no hestitation is saying J-Will will be fine, like moses said, with confidence and in time he will be a valuable player for the club!

dmac, dmac, dmac.... why is it you always have to be so negative.....

C'mon Moses, even I used to score a few points down there in the A grade league (Go Cougars!!), two premierships while I was down there if I don't mind saying so!
Let's be realistic here everyone. Jason Williams was a good player for Sturt. Was not a huge scorer but did a lot of other things. The South East Conference though is a different story. Jason's going to have to lift his game if he's going to contribute to the team. That doesn't mean huge points as you've got a few other guys on the team to do that, but if your 0 from 10 from beyond the arc, you really should've stopped shooting it at about the 5th or 6th shot! His confidence is down yes, but doing that isn't going to help, and your not contributing to the team. With time and once his finger's healed completely, i'm sure he'll be able to knock a couple down but till then, contribute in other ways.
The Pioneers will be fine this season there's no doubt, with Jamo, Seda and Dallas and throw in Timmy to run the show they would have to be looking at finals.
What really needs to happen is the town of Mount Gambier to get behind them and start rocking the Icehouse like the old days!!!

I think if there was a solution, the Pioneers board would have tried it. To this point they have just about tried everything. Those days was when basketball was booming right across Australia around 93, 94, 95. These days most basketball clubs are struggling to keep their heads above water.

I agree, Jason should have stopped shooting earlier, but he did contribute in other ways.

J Will was the Pioneers' third highest rebounder (behind Jamie and Dallas which can be forgiven, hard to beat them to a rebound).

To me, Jason is just taking a while to get used to his surroundings.

He is no longer the big fish like he was at Sturt and it can take time re-adjusting to just being a contributor, not a star.

I think Jason's biggest problem on Thursday night was his shoes.

Changed them once and still slipped over!

we kept in the game just from a few scoring runs...hardly any consistency throughout the game with so many shots being missed..sloppys two handed jam with the foul was sick..sedlock was suited up and shot around before the game but pulled out cus his ankle wasnt near as good as he thought.....moses you seem poud to be apart of the 'purple and gold'...unfortunately your new uniforms make you look like pansys

Yeah gotta say it.... That two hander really got me going!

So whats the chances of seeing Sedda suited this Friday against the AIS?

I believe people will start watching if they get some young blood into the team. I know they need their big guys for strength and leadership but getting kids like simon berkfield and shannon seebohm on the court would spark things up a bit. Afterall, those two guys practically single-handedlly got the pioneers back in the game when they played warrnmabool seahawks at the Millicent ABA Challenge. The pioneers squad is pretty exciting when u look at it on paper anyway with mase and dmac. They don't actually advertise that greatly down here in the south east. They should start organizing buses from surrounding towns like millicent and naracoorte to get them involved. It seems like they don't really care that they aren't pulling in the crowds! A bit of publicity would do them the world of good. Well thats just what i think though.

let jason williams live.hes been out of form for a couple of years now.he will find it shot one day.

MVP for the winter season 2005 - Russian!!! Even Moses could put up 0/10 from the 3. I think the panthers uniform suits you Moses. It brings out your feminine side. Just joking dog.

Strewth, I'm copping a hammering here. Best take a few notes, sharpen the elbows ..... ;-)

Shannon Seebohm will not suit for the Pioneers in the SEABL.

He is keeping his options open for college ball and would become ineligible if he played for the Pioneers.

The same reason he is not playing for Forestville's ABA team.

Not saying he is going to college, just keeping the option open.

Pioneers will never fill the stadium's again like they did in the bad old days because there is no free to air replay.
Like it or not TV is where the interest is spiked for local sports.
If WIN TV were serious about opportunities in regional sports they would run replays on all of their stations Ballarat Bendigo Albury Canberra it would be awesome and maybe send some much needed $ back into the sport.

There was a small article in the weekend Adelaide papers saying Channel 37 or 39 or something like that, have a community licence in the mount for 12 months. They'll cover local news and sport.

This might be your answer, Enforcer.

Could be, and Moose could be coming back too.

Not likely though!

Strewth, send the Moose back please. The Panthers need him!

Personally I think there are 2 types of fans that go to Pioneers games, the hard core basketball afficionados who would go whatever, whenever and those that go to watch a show.
Of recent times the latter are in the majority, if this is true then you need to build an entertaining product as well as a high game standard product.
Things like really high standard commentators and pump up music, A grade or inter town curtain raisers 2 or 3 times a season even a decent after game party now and then could help.


What do you think Panther?