Eagles could be losing more than they think

Gerlach O/S
Riley O/S
DMT ???
Arnold retired
Sullivan ???

Was it worth Hannah Richards making the move to the darkside?
Will she move back to the club that developed her into the player she is today!!!!!!!!!!!

The AIS? I don't think she can go back to Canberra..?

I'm going to throw a cat amongst the pigeons and put some names out there on who's moving or retiring....
Sturt: Tim Klaosen- Is a solid player and is trying to take every opportunity to get better as a player. Can give good minutes at ABL level but won't get them at Sturt.
John Marriott- Started the season as a starting five player, but once Jacob came back couldn't get a game, ending up only averaging about 4 minutes a game after that. Is a big bloke, still young and may expect more minutes.
Marcus Ng- Hasn't quite gotten back to the form he showed in 2007. Started the season back after injury logging 30 minutes to only end the season averaging about 10 minutes. Won't get much court time behind the better Ng...

West Adelaide- I don't know if we will see any players move sides but expect to see a players retire or simply give the game away.
Shane Crothers- If the men can get a win on Saturday I would put my money on the old man retiring on a high. If not...he's still done! Let's hope the boys can send him off with a victory and maybe another tattoo on the other ankle! ;)
Matthew Dubrich- Played 5 games in 2009 with South and averaged 7pts and 5 rebs in limited time. Thought the grass was greener on the other side of Prt rd but was horribly wrong. Has only logged minutes in 2 games this season and just doesn't look interested. Will give the great game away.
Rory Craddock- In 2006 averaged 17 pts per game, 13 in 2007 and 2008 and then dopped to 5pts in 2009 and this year averaged a miserly 1.8pts per game. Since the evolving of both Bond and Phillips as players Rory has lost his way and will again simply give the game away.

Forestville- It's interesting to see the names mentioned above. DMT and Scott Arnold have been talking about retiring for a year or two now (Arnold did retire for a season!), if the likes of Sullivan and Gerlach go OS I simply don't think they will go around again.
Can they afford to get Riley back again? Can Riley afford to play full time on a very small income? The fact he hasn't been picked up by any NBL, but has put his name out there will he be picked up by a SEABL club next season who can pay him and offer him more?
Will we see the return of big man Peter Hoban? Has played predominately in the reserves for WWT but has played 5 League games this season and with one ruckman quitting and the hopes currently resting on the shoulders of Craig Parry, is there a spot for Peter or will he play for reserves again all year next season?

Norwood- This could be the team with the most changes. Coach Sapwell has gone, Keith Krause may be doubtful now needing surgery on both his elbow and knee in the off season. Dan Thompson is an enigma, played very little during the season after off court indiscretions (but we will call it fireman duties!) and when he did play would not have been happy playing only 15 minutes a game. If he loses good mate and partner in crime Krause to retirement may not see a reason to go around again or could do the unthinkable and join West!!!
Talk is young gun Peter Hooley maybe looking elsewhere in order to get some minutes and currently training with the Sixers could be a spark of anyones bench!

North- Won't change too much in my opinion, have a reasonably young group beside Dallas who now he has his life membership with North could look at retiring.
The only change I could foresee is the movement of young gun Rhys Elliott. Will he look at college? I doubt it. Will he look elsewhere to get more minutes, maybe. Was playing big minutes and good minutes last season for North but was pushed back to a resrves role behind Zorich. Unfortunately kids these days expect everything NOW, so will he fit this stereotype of kid and look elsewhere to seek his time in the sun?
Can anyone tell me what happened to the left handed kid, Luke Mapanda?? ;)

Eastern- Again, don't see too many changes in this group. Have a very solid base to work with and will be the big movers in 2011 if they can keep the group together and perhaps pick up a good point guard...Rhys?? Starting five with a guard like Rhys or even someone like a young Nathan Spehr and you would have a line up of Spehr/Elliott, Madgen, Hill, Dodman and Breheny. That group is good enough to go with any team.

Woodville- Not too much left there for Scott Whitmore to take except Cam Wilson and considering he's running for the President, Senior Women's Coach as well as the Canteen ladies role I don't see him leaving. Brink is gone and won't be back.
Will Knight look to move? Has played well for the last two seasons and would be a handy asset to a team competing for finals. Looks to stand out amongst a bag of misfits with his surfy looks, tan skin and hot missus, surely a pretty team like Norwood or Sturt would be more suited!!

South- Once again a team that underperformed but did do better than last year but is it enough to keep players like Steve Pilkington or newby Sammy Gazzo at the club? Forestville heavily persued Pilkington last season only to be burnt by a "my word is stronger than oak" handshake deal at the 23rd hour. Will they want to pursue him again?
Sammy Gazzo had a good season coming in second in scoring with 24 points, but did put up on average 25 shots per game at 38% to get that 24. Will be chased by a lot of clubs in the off season, but being the coaches "pet" will he stay?

Southern- What can you say about this group? Not a lot left to be honest. Star recruit Paget quitting after just 3 games to play football. Keg on legs Paul Smith doing the same thing.
Losing Josh Wood to Cairns was obviously a massive hit to the team and to Coach Jury's career as coach!
With him gone will we see Gerlach move back? Clarke back and Hodges out of retirement???

Centrals- Wow, where do you start? Will Scott Whitmore have a job? Going from potential finalists in 2009 to wooden spooners in 2010 would hurt this blokes will to win. I just don't know what went wrong with this group. I hink the big fella needs to cull a couple of players including import Wade Piddock. This group could score but couldn't stop a grandma crossing the road! The import was all about pre game warm ups and chucking up three's, not about stopping his man and heling out. The same could be said about Reeves, both bigs choosing to soley focus on offence.
Rumours were that Reeves was not enjoying his basketball and planning on giving it away to focus on social basketball!!! Could we see a return to the green and gold for him?
All in all though they have a good young squad if they can retain players like Carlin, Templeton and Zane and if they could obtain the services of a quality big like a Dan Thompson could again push for finals.

Well that just took up my morning, i'm sure I will get plenty of heated arguements out of this!

Great write up mesiah

Cam Wilson and considering he's running for the President, Senior Women's Coach as well as the Canteen ladies role I don't see him leaving.

so true, so true, so very very sad but so true

West loosing
Crothers - retiring
Molitor - AFL
Phillips - US High school

Norwood loosing
Krause - was going before he did his knee
Sapwell - U14 coaching his son
Thompson - retiring
Mathews - retiring

Coaches - are they all in place - any likely new faces ?
Great to see new face in Bell /Jeanette COTY - clubs taking chances wih fresh blood paid off - Scotty B also new to ABA GF in first stint -

although though Bell might have been ABA coach few years back or at least filled in

Butler has coached Sturt men before - late 90's?

Early 2000's I think.

South Womens Coach = Gone, KB = Southern Mens Coach.... Interesting times ahead!

Spoke to Krause less than a week ago and he still hadn't made his decision, wanted to speak to the doctor about his knee first.
Also, KB will be coaching the other side of town from what I hear so Southern will need to keep looking.

Surely Cam Wilson will be coaching the Woodville men next season, as everybody knows a poor season at Woodville = the coach is axed.

speculation is great crew but if the Tigers go after KB it is a joke considering that for the past 5 years there senior teams have been asked to run on a shoe string at best ...... pretty sure KB aint travelling down south for no $$$$ .... and if he does he would want to bring Darnell as there may be some key players moving so they can get to team in which the club will support winning !

Southern Men have key players? Like who?

Southern obviously spent their money on more important things like contributing $$ to a fantastic brand new Stadium and viewing area and the recently announced full time Basketball Operations Manager.

Good on em.

Kb to coach a Northern women's team is my late mail...from the man himself! ;)

pickles ex housemate ..... if i remember correctly those key players helped the tigers to be the only team to win against both grand finalists last season !
Maybe if their club let them recruit some bigs (or Paget didnt go chasing coin in footy) they wouldnt of been undersized all year !

KB to Norwood is a rumour I heard as well...but there would be some unhappy Flames people if that happened.

This has turned into the KB thread.

KB will be a busy boy. Coaching here, coaching there. Can you coach the mens at one club and womens at the other?

what's this about molitor playing AFL? couple more I hear south men are looking for a new coach, maynard (sturt) off to college in the states, knight (woodvile) not returning, harvey (forestvlie) considering a change of clubs, and pidock (centrals) not returning. any insight?

The horse trading has already started.

Heard Rumors of some player movement to South dependant on which/if 1st time ABL coach gets gig.

Any more word on U23s coaches? Notice most clubs holding trials soon...

South abl mens coach gone, told the players other night 8 wins in 2 years not good enough?

what's this about molitor playing AFL?
No hes of to sanfl with west adelaide, He played a couple of games with thier 2nds last season...

West will be slim next year..
No davo
No molly
no phillips
no crusher
Anyone looking for an ABL spot heres your chance....

Who'd want to play with Truslove though!

"Up There", your obviously a fan of both Gazzo and the coach it seems mate, a little disgruntled are we?
I highly doubt there will be many leaving for football, I know a certain former player is trying to entice some of the players to play football in the country but I don't see it happening.
Retirements, again I don't see it happening, most of the players are keen to go around again.

1st time coach going to south ??????
have they not gone after ninnis ?
pretty sure gazzo wont be allowed to put up 35+ shots a game under Ninnis ......

im a fan of gazzo actually mesiah???, and yes he wont be putting up that many under whoever they go after? mentality needs to change cause they have the talent!

On the Grapevine i hear one of the players returning from college is heading up to Mildura to play in Big V. How would that happen?????

up there .... im a fan too, he plays hard, has good skills, rebounds but Im just not sure how he would go in a team that requires 3 guys getting 15-20 shots - but your right about South .... they have the talent to do a lot better !

As far as the college guy going to Mildura - have you heard of a salary cap in this league ? its barely enough to buy the guys a pair of shoes each so why would he play here !

Whos this returning from college didnt relise they south had anyone in college system at moment?

I think they have plenty of cash in Mildura from some of the "PRODUCT" they grow in the area.

Is Trent not going back to college? It would make sense that he was as surely both players could get a gig in the SBL side? If they were planning on going back to college though they wouldn't be allowed to play SBL without special permission from their college which is why they would have just played reserves.

Gazzo has copped alot of flack for putting up too many shots this year but surely thats a reflection of the direction of the team. I think under a different coach you will find Gazzo to be one of the best players in ABL. By directing Souths offenses to utilise their other strengths more it will take the defensive focus off of Gazzo allowing him to have more open shots. With some slight adjustments to his game you may well find him at the top of the Woolacott medal race in the near future.

gee white dog, sounds like you might be the next South coach !!

minimal income - any income is better than nothing for scotch ninnis...

Bobby Neil for South ABA Mens

Well ninnis is a south boy from way back and would be right what they need? have under achieved for past decade need someone to whip it back into the glory days!!!!!!!peoples

Ninnis coaching South in 2011

is this confirmed annon?

Is KB his assistant?

So anon, you know Southern Mens has been decided, but you didn't bother asking who it was?

looking at other posts shaun may be coaching a team of juniors !

Most people on here bagged Scott Ninnis when he was coaching the Sixers and it was reported the players didn't like him, now everyone on here is saying he is a good choice for South and will whip them into shape! Make your mind up!!!

^^^^ is that the south adelaide job head coach job

Heard a young bearcat escaped the cage and has jumped on a rocket is this rumour true???

I hope we aren't talking about what happened last Saturday night after a few drinks!

sss - yes this is true.

Which young Bearcat?

Josh Bond from West to North.

Josh hasn't had time to scratch himself in the off season...
josh is looking to go to college in the future he might want to check on the college rules for applicants having an agent = not allowed.
He might want to be careful colleges dont get any info on him having an agent acting for him in the adelaide state league...

His agent or AL Green = the person sitting in on josh's meetings with state league coaches from teams like centrals, south and north.
Your 19 josh not a NBA free agent coming out of contract.
- no one has an agent in the SA State league.
and if you are trying to go to college
- isn't a rule you can't paid... what are you shopping yourself around for?

very interesting decision/career move for the young man seeing west have lost brad davidson to retirement and kurtis phillips to college.

Thats what you get when your club doesn't look after their juniors.

Number 1
Josh dose not have an agent AL is a good friend and is the one that got him into basketball
Number 2
Josh is looking for a club that will help him take the next step, not just promise court time but help him learn more he knocked back Mt Gambier last year because it was paid so NO he is not after money
Number 3
The club he went with did not promise court time or anythink else, So he will have to work hard for what he gets and that is what he wants (could of stayed at west and got 30mins + court time but court time is not everythink)


He still love west but he is not the only to move from one club to another. Only time will tell if he made the right move

reanon
A few hours ago
01:42 10 Oct 10


Reply #291576
re: ABL Players Moving Clubs
Josh hasn't had time to scratch himself in the off season...
josh is looking to go to college in the future he might want to check on the college rules for applicants having an agent = not allowed.
He might want to be careful colleges dont get any info on him having an agent acting for him in the adelaide state league...
................................................
MMMM someone should get their fact right before opening their mouths
There is no problem having a friend attending a meeting with you as support, His old coach would know the difference as he is a players agent......

Who cares about Josh Bond, he has never been an elite athlete, can't play defense and everyone knows it except his mum, who rang NORTH. Goodluck North with that one or is it two!

And people wonder why players like Bond and Spehr left west.

Do we need any more evidence than the above post.

Got out while they still had a chance to improve.

Mimas 19 - and the rest

Don't know how a player's departure from West over two years ago is relevant here, especially since Spehr left (and remains) on good terms with everyone at West and certainly did not leave for reasons of bad feeling or frustrated ABL aspirations - at 17 years of age, ridiculous. As I hear it, he turned down ABL opps in 2009 because of Year 12 studies. Please use someone else to bolster the argument!

Bond has made a decision to go to North. Other players are moving too! That's basketball, par for the course, get over it and MOVE ON.

RE 293922

Well if he has no defence then what does that say abt the coaches who has coached him
Then it is a good move to another club to learn said defence to make him a better player

Any news on players moving/signing with clubs, my rumours so far...

North have picked up Josh Bond obviously, but the latest is that Tracey has siged up Sam Harris as well. I guess being assistant has paid off...

The rumours are massive surrounding Sturt, but i'm not too sure if I believe them all. They will have Brad Hill and Mitch Creek joining them for season 2011 which would leave a pretty unbeatable squad if Jacob and Darren and the youngsters hang around. Don't know how they will all start as you would think players like Darren, Jacob, Brad, Mitch, Daly, Jan, Spehr would all be expecting to start.

Peter Hooley has gone across to South and the news out of the Panthers is they have or are very close to signing Daniel Johnson. I know they have spoken to Creek as well and you would think the Horsham connection would overide whatever Sturt can offer (which is $0, according to te Sabres).

Jeff Dowdell has signed with the Bearcats along with Tristan Braithwaite to try and cover some of the losses but I think they still have a long way to go.

Woodville seem destined to get back Zane Reeves from Centrals.

Centrals have lost Jacob Templeton who has decided to try Aussie rules footy, but might pick up Luke Frost from South.

Nothing coming out of Forestville and from what I believe they may have lost a few. Once again murmours of Arnold retiring, Gerlach travelling OS and Riley possibly not returning.

Anything else on the rumour mill???

I find it hard to beleive that this number of the sixers squad will stay in Adelaide off season.
Surely most will go home and play with their local clubs / SEABL.
Souds like a big bunch of gos to me

Yeah most of these guys have been signed for two years and Marty wants them to hang around Adelaide so he can continue to work with them in the off season as well as to give back to grass roots basketball here in SA. It's a great idea and reminds me of the old days when every Sixer had a local club they played for. Fans end up building more of a relationship with them and i'm sure it will build crowd numbers.
It used to be great watching Rob Rose at Forestville, Trimmingham at Centrals, Maher at Sturt, Mark Davis at South in the old days.

The Brad,

Sturt aren'y getting anyone.

Who would they drop from their starting line up?

Well that's my point, who would you start and who would you put to the bench? My thought would be to run with a smaller line up, Daly, Ng, Creek, Hill, Holmes if all came on board and have Spehr and Warbout off the bench but would these guys be happy with that role, both players have developed really well over the past two years and would deserve a starting role on probably 80% of teams in this league.
Let's hope for the league they don't pick anyone else up!!!

So Brad you're guessing then? You haven't heard any rumours, you are in fact starting them yourself.

No not at all, heard from a player in the league who I won't name who is "in the loop" with a lot of these players...

The Brad,

By in the loop, you mean, idol gossip.

What sort of wager would you like to put on it?

Expect Amber Land to suit with Forestville

BTW, "idle gossip". Unless you really, really look up to these legends of the ABL game. ;)

Haha how can you not look up to jacob.

anon,

Do you want to put some money on it then?

If Amber Land ends up anywhere but Centrals next year it will be a disgrace to the league, for the first time in years Centrals have seured a marquee player that would build their program, if other teams cant see that as good for the league it is a real shame. Forestville please leave Amber in her place at Centrals and allow a better 10 team competition.

all of the americans men or women that played abl this year are on visa's that allow one year only, so if Amber plays anywhere it will be a surprise.

her visa status would have to change dramatically for it to happen.

well anon, I had my moments unfortunately, but I can assure you any recruiting I did from bottom teams were after being contacted by the player not the other way around. Looking back however I would have done it a little differently, we learn and grow!

We just need to accept some Mexicans are filthier than the rest.

Sam Harris signed with Bendigo...

I heard Harris had already signed with North! How can the SBL seriously compete with what SEABL teams can offer players here!

I hear that Rashard Tucker is working behind the bar this year at Forestville... ;)

A little tired that one Panther...

Isn't Rashard Tucker overseas playing though...

Sure you probably meant Wayville as well not Forestville...

I heard he was playing in Japan...