Rockets women failure.. maybe have a looking at the coaching staff

Rockets women failure.. maybe have a looking at the coaching staff

Maybe that the coaches were starting both their kids?

Good report Jack Toft,
keep up the good work

maybe its because the coches kids earnt their spot in the first five.

maybe its because both the coaches kids earnt their spot in the first five?

I'm the daughter of the coach and if my dad wanted to favor me he would have started me 4 years ago when he started coaching. However, I sat on the bench for 3 years and earnt my spot just like everyone else.

Re Eastern, the team won't stick together because Madgen won't play another game under their current coach, which I'm sure isn't a surprise to anyone. Looks like Eastern will be roughing it out with Centrals and Woodville next season.

probably because you were only 12, 4 years ago.

its really lovely how you will share your opinion but not your name. grow some balls.

If I were you, I wouldn't put my name to "grow some balls". Charming.

rightio. i just think its funny that people who probably dont even know me or have any idea about how our team works will say things and not post their name.. i have no issue with people posting things about me and giving their opinion if they would just man up instead of saying it anonymously

I guess that's the beauty of a forum, isn't it sweetheart?!

Woot - Somehow, I think she would be the one needing to grow some to get a game anywhere else.. daddy wouldn't be there to dish out the minutes i'm afraid.

Maybe losing a top quality centre who was replaced by a princess who didn't last many weeks into the season would have as much to do with results than the coaches daughter getting preferential treatment.

Mark Wallis won a championship.

Mike McKays team have finished lower evry year.

Yeah I'd take Wallis any day. And that princess who left a few weeks into the season.... well that just leads to the same questions already flowing - how well do the North coaches manage and communicate with their players? Hmm

The question then is, why has the talent dropped off so quickely. And I would suggest that it would be both coaches daughters. Mansfield is shooting at 20 something percent for the year but manages to start. And McKay has been getting minutes for years and only scores cause she can shoot when she likes. Got ripped apart at the defensive end on Saturday.

Yet another anonymous poster just stirring the pot.

Seriously whats the point of having a go at somebody in that manner, do you have nothing better to do with you time than this pathetic jab?

Anyone who posts as anonymous has two heads and six fingers, and this came from an anonymous poster!!!!

Ouch... It's getting personal.

Anon your right... there was no one else on that team... not an obvious player .. that should have been starting ahead of the starters. And to be honest Shannon has thrived with the opportunity she has been giving, top scoring a number of times.

What was missing in that teamw as communication between coach and player, player and coach and probably player and player. Without an open communication line things fester and team morale declines quickly - perhaps the reason for a loss of players over the past few years.

Guess what... there will be another season and one after that for North to get it right! yay

Detroit, I always find it amusing when people such as yourself post stuff under 'Detroit' or whatever other random name you like have a go at people posting under 'anonymous' because they are not revealing themselves. I'm sorry, but I'm pretty sure I don't know anyone in the basketball community named Detroit, so who are you?

Ha Ha i already knew what your response was going to be as soon as i posted!

Im not sitting here taking shots at people like our anonymous friend :)

My anonymous comment at the bottom of my post was simply a bit of fun in reference to anonymous line of "put some pressure on her, and she doenst shake your hand at the end of the game. And that came from a parent!!!".

(Note i cant actually find the original post now.....)

Reminded me of the "friend of a friend told me" type of scenario.

Oh and me posting under Detroit, thats the beauty of a forum, isn't it sweetheart?! :D

Been interesting reading this thread and the various comments about the Lightning and the perceived issues there which are similar. Coaching a partner or child is an extremely difficult scenario as no matter what you do, no matter how talented they are, some one will always come up with perceived bias.

In the olden days, I coached several female teams in monor leagues, some with my then partner playing in and others she didnt. The main issue is that a Coach has to make the difficult task to isolate themselves from any personal relationship when they are at a game. I found I had to coach a female team different to a male team as they needed to be approached differently to their male counterparts. Most female players in my experience need to be treated as individuals, what works to encourage one, will not work with another. Some take personal feedback different to others as well. There are of course other factors unique to females that have to be understood and taken into consideration when relating to them.

However, whether male or female, it is the ability to get the message across in such a way that the players are open and responsive that is the most important. The players must want to play for the coach and their team mates.

From a distance, it appears that this is a contributing factor to several of the female teams that are regularly mentioned in this forum.

Ushiro, some valid points. There is not one coach in the comp (besides probably Sharon Symons) at the moment that I would play under. The standard of coaching in the ABL has nose-dived - pretty sad really.

Ushiro
"However, whether male or female, it is the ability to get the message across in such a way that the players are open and responsive that is the most important. The players must want to play for the coach and their team mates."

HERE HERE!!

I would think that Bec Lock would be a starter in front of either coaches daughter. Considering she is the leading 3 point shooter in the competition and scoring more than both.

And starting 2 point guards against a big Sturt line up made little sence.

I would also suggest that players have moved clubs and/or quit over the past couple of years, including this year, giving the coach little options.

Interesting Ushiro's camparison to Lightning. Perhaps the North women have had a problem (and maybe still do) over the last few years not dissimilar to the Lightning - agreed coaches aren't perfect, but perhaps it might be more about players who are not willing to play for the TEAM or the coach but are more interested in playing for themselves. No amount of communication by coaches or players with these "me " centered players will get them to play TEAM basketball unless the team revolves around them. Maybe the the Lightning have solved their problem with the departure of the coahes but the learned hoopsta's on this forum suggest the problem may still exist. Maybe North's problems have moved or maybe a change in coaching staff is neeeded or perhaps both, time will tell.
The strategies of coaching - there are so many experts - if only coaches had a direct communication to all the "very intelligent" and "all knowing" x players and parent coaches on the sideline it would make their coaching much easier. Today's generation of parents have way to much to say and and are ruining, certainly junior, basketball.

Damn , are all those SA anon posters claiming an unfair advantage re parents coaching their children still around here ??, They were singing the same song about Gaze putting his no-hoper 19 year old son into the Olympics in the 70's.

You really have to be rather pathetic at a personal level to target the child when being critical of such relationships. In every case I have ever seen, arguable favouritism or not, the kid usually works their ar$e off a lot harder than the rest of the players, particularly at a higher level.

I also rarely hear coaches with any coaching talent or respectable coaching history themselves accuse other coaches of favouritism of the coaches' own kids, unless they have kids in that team as well.

In which case they are speaking even more as a parent than the actual coach is, at least the real coach has to try to win some games.

TIME COUPLE WOMENS MOVED ON - but bet one will maintain the longest losing record.

I have to say this is the most disgusting link I have read. Especially, Anonymous at 15.52.29 - how DISGUSTING ARE YOU to attach these coaches - YOURE A disgusting Joke - and hopefully you do not have children playing

apologise before someone else points it out - should reat attack