U/20 Mens
SA def WA 74-70

SA U20 Men
FGA - 66
FGM - 27
FG% - 41.0%
3PA - 23
3PM - 7
3P% - 30.0%
FTA - 26
FTM - 13
FT% - 50%
OR - 13
DR - 21
TR - 34
PFS - 17
AS - 17
ST - 5
BL - 0
TO - 9
Pts - 74


WA U20 Men
FGA - 64
FGM - 28
FG% - 44.0%
3PA - 19
3PM - 6
3P% - 32.0%
FTA - 16
FTM - 8
FT% - 50%
OR - 14
DR - 24
TR - 38
PFS - 20
AS - 6
ST - 2
BL - 1
TO - 15
Pts - 70

For individual's stats go to
http://www.sportingpulse.com/round_info.cgi?a=MATCH&fixture=169882371&c=1-4101-0-102877-0&pool=1

For me it looks like the difference between the two was only the FT and turnovers
15 turnovers to 9 and an extra 5 points at the line pushed this victory towards SA

Player of Match
Jan Warbout
7 of 13 FG at 54% of which only 1-5 from 3 point land
2-2 from the line
10 rebounds
4 assists
1 turnover

U/20 Womens
SA Def TAS 117-43

SA U20 Women
2PA - 95
2PM - 45
2P% - 47%
3PA - 8
3PM - 3
3P% - 38%
PFS - 17
AS - 32
BL - 3
ST - 25
TO - 15
OR - 30
DR - 30
FTA - 27
FTM - 18
FT% - 66.7%
Pts - 117

TAS U20 Women
2PA - 38
2PM - 9
2P% - 24%
3PA - 20
3PM - 5
3P% - 25%
PFS - 20
AS - 11
BL - 5
ST - 4
TO - 43
OR - 7
DR - 26
FTA - 17
FTM - 10
FT% - 58.8%
Pts - 43

Tasmania were completly demolished in this match. 43 turnover just tells the story, no team no matter how good can win a match commiting 43 turnovers. Not to take anything away from SA, they played very well as a cohesive team today.

For individual stats

http://www.sportingpulse.com/round_info.cgi?a=MATCH&fixture=169882482&c=1-4101-0-102876-0&pool=1

Player of match
This could go to any of 3-4 players
Today its Emma Hooley
17 points at 57%, 10 rebounds and 2 assists

Others worth a mention
Georgia Minear - 22 points, 6 steals, 3 assists
Cara Boothey - 9 points, 4 steals, 6 assists, 7 rebounds

Best part of the mens game was how they came home with a 12 point run after they subbe the 5 sturt kids onto the court.

hehe...

You stirt gusys sticking together...

:)

U20 Women
SA 92 d NZ 50

Nicole Seekamp 20 pts @ 80%; 5 assists

Another good result. Queensland tonight will be a bit tougher.

Another good performance. Confidence will be high and legs fresh. Girls are in a very good position. Will throw in some analysis tonight. Also ill make a table, as the website is very poor this year

This is a STATE based comp not a club comp, If the state coach is good enough he will be able to make any combo work and as for you Dirty sturty it simple comments like yours that make the sturt club look like w..kers, all of the boys have trained hard and all are there for a reason and of corse the more court time you get the more chance you have....in stead of beating your own drum get behind the TEAM and encourage all of them as a TEAM...... REMBER THE SA TEAM IS A STATE TEAM not a STURT team.....now thats said LETS GO SA and KICK A VIC......

Liam doesn't have time to come to fourms such as these..nor do facebook...

Not when your the assistant coach of a NBL cl.....ohh hang on...Yeah maybe he does have time...

;)

Now back to the 20's championship...

Good to see the SA Guys kickin it, still early days, but wins are wins and you need them early in competitions like these...

SA boys went down to Vic by 12 tonight. Down by 14 at the half most had written them off, but they fought back very hard, to 4 points midway through the 4th but couldnt capitalise on the momentum. As much as some people will rip me for saying it, the team did seem to flow better when the 5 sturt kids were on the floor, cutting the defecit well. This is to be expected as these boys do play and train together regularly. The 'point guard' (not sure why we dont use names) you speak of played a crucial role in cutting the lead, but a few easy misses at the rim, and bad fouls cost them dearly. If they were to meet again, i believe it would be more of a contest than it was, as long as the SA boys bring their A game they are good enough to take out the Vics.

Cheers Detroit, I wish I was there, but for some reason I need income and am unable to get time off..


Nice write up and if you get a chance, keep it coming...

Not sure if Boti is going to give it any paper space, might not today with yesterdays announcements...

:):):):):)

So easy to get a bight isn't it.

vic played poo but still dominated the SA's. SA not looking strong i think they will lose to NZ. Game againest WA was lucky. SA's team is looking soft as butter. Look lets stop riding the SA train casue its heading straight to the 7th and 8th play of game. we should change the website name it vichoops.com and start backing a team who might actually win.
:D

It's good that people can get on here and support the boys. Way to go hoopsters. Can we all look past club agendas and actually throw out some words of encouragement for all the players, no matter what club they play for in Adelaide?

To be 1-1 after playing WA and VIC isn't too bad. A huge game coming up tonight against NZ, and we really need to win to avoid the NSW/QLD quarter final matchup.

Go SA!!!!

Can we all look past club agendas

Sorry hustle, but stretch goals need to be achievable.... :)

Go Reds!

I think that is great by the SA Girls...

Certainly the chitter chatter about Vic girls sounds about right...

Will be keen to see what NSW are able to produce, I really think their program has improved out of sight in the last 24 months...

SA boys took care of NZ tonight by about 30 or so. Some good and bad stuff from tonights game.

NZ hung with the boys for the first quater, until SA switched to running fast break offences off rebounds and inbounds, and full court presses which NZ just couldnt seem to get through. SA does seem to get momentum going when they run the fast break well, which is what Vic stopped last night, and could be the key to any team stopping the SA boys. The rotations seemed to be a bit smarter and proactive tonight, which is something that was lacking last night.

The Good:
Very good hand-up, shot defence with NZ shooting at 1/15 3pts and around 25% from the field. The silly fouls from last night were non-existant tonight.
Tom Daly, was just superb.
Full court press was tough, any team would have struggled to get through it easily.
Good ball movement looking for the extra pass.

The Bad:
40% from the field (i know im being tough but to beat the vics 50%+ is where they will need to be)
9/29 3pt (again maybe a bit tough, but 12/29 plus the higher inside% would have been enough to push them over the Vics last night)
Warbout and Brine need to be a more dominant presence inside, the NZ big really took care of Warbout in the first half, running some easy pick and rolls which Warbout seemed to get lost on, and play with hands not body. Brine needs to finish better, he works very hard at getting to his spots and getting the ball, but doesnt have that shine at the rim.

All in all the SA boys have the talent, and determination to beat every team in the comp, but still need to work hard on their help D, and need to keep looking for that extra pass on the 3. They will need to bring their A+ game, and maybe just a touch of lady luck to take out the Vics.

I definatley recommend anybody who has some spare time later in the week to get out and check all of these teams, as they ARE the future of basketball in this country.

Todays play of the day (from what i saw)-
Jackson Aldridge 1/2 court pass to Mitch Creek for a ridiculous ally oop, simply awesome!!

"Todays play of the day (from what i saw)-
Jackson Aldridge 1/2 court pass to Mitch Creek for a ridiculous ally oop, simply awesome!!"

Was this during a game as these guys play for NSW and VIC respectively - they are not on the same team!

"Todays play of the day (from what i saw)-
Jackson Aldridge 1/2 court pass to Mitch Creek for a ridiculous ally oop, simply awesome!!"

Was this during a game as these guys play for NSW and VIC respectively - they are not on the same team!

"Todays play of the day (from what i saw)-
Jackson Aldridge 1/2 court pass to Mitch Creek for a ridiculous ally oop, simply awesome!!"

Was this during a game as these guys play for NSW and VIC respectively - they are not on the same team!

Oops, my bad LC, thats what happens when you post past midnight....

Should have said, Josh Wilcher to Mitch Creek!

But now that i think about it, they are both number 4 and do look pretty similar!

LOL! No worries.

Don't forget that the Vic women are missing both Elizabeth Cambage and Rachel Jarry...put them both in the squad and they win every game by 20+ points.

From what Ive heard, SA girls playing as a real team.
SA Boys will need to put TEAM first before TIME...or it will cost them!!! Read the bit about 'sturt crap' but if true, coach will have to be stronger and re-enforce TEAM, instead of players competing against each other..........HELLO

Ahh that's the problem with the internet...too many keyboard warriors...

I think the SA Men can rally and get into a decent medal position...If you have made it high enough to get a state gig there is a fair amount of arrogance built in to not listen to anyone else bar the ppl in the know close enough to you...

some reality here - let me just set some facts to you all:

* vic population is roughly 4 million

* sa population is 1 million

if vic isn't the better state - why not - they should be. I do myself believe vic is the bigger stronger state in all sports not just basketball. but my goodness with four times the population so it should be. The SA boys will certainly give them a run for their money.

for you to consider

frankston junior assoc 15 thousand junior players
dandenong same
nunawading same
knox same

do you get my message.

where it sits at the moment SA are a very good chance to make the finals like it was 2 years ago in ballarat. why doesn't everyone see the upside?

also by the way - go sa girls. what a brilliant job you are doing. And lets hope you may get some credit somewhere sometime!!!!!!!!!!!

and by the way is there ANY CHANCE the adelaide papers may report at least once or more often on the state championships on at gawler at the moment............

there is a huge tournament on in gawler. would anyone in sa know.....................i dont think so.

NO....wake up!

get with the progranme - its embarrassing..........................

go the gravy train

whats the gravy train

SA girls took out NSW girls tonight by about 25. The girls really turned it on in the second quater and blew the game apart, NSW did well to not give up any give too many more points after that but the damage was done. The SA girls would have to be considered strong gold medal favourites with only Vic who have a realistic chance of beating them.

PPDO...get much lead?

Go the SA girls..Hope they get the gold...Will be a good game against the Vic's...

Great reporting in the advertiser..............NOT..........then again dont reckon relatives playing?

Can someone tell me how to log into live stats for mens finals??? Im on BA website but apart from draw and box score wont take me to Live Stats?

Anon, I clicked on Live Stats a few minutes ago and there was a list of all the games (except the Men's game V Tas that started at 3pm) but now there's nothing there. Dunno what's happened. They were there.

Vic men smashed ACT men in qualifying final stage. Anthony Drmic recorded a rare triple-double of 22 points, 12 rebounds and 10 assists. He was also just 3 steals short of a quadruple-double!
Only 3 Victorian players failed to notch up double-digit scoring in the 120-39 win.

Semi finals games today are as follows:

SA vs NSW (5:00pm)
VIC vs QLD (7:00pm)

Could be a mouth-watering SA vs VIC final.

queen adelaide.
Frankston has perhaps 6500 registered players ALL up
Knox has perhaps 10k - that is their claim so would be high
Dandenong had perhaps 6k
nunawding smaller than dandenong.

not sure where you are making your figures up from but no one quotes any association in australia at more than 10,000 players.... and they are the boasters from those associations.

Sydney's biggest runs like 4k, Perths maybe 3k, Qld maybe .... 2.5k

SA is such a different structure so you cannot compare apples with apples. Having said this in my view SA has always had a much better development stucture.

Yep - Drmic just 3 steals short of quadruple-double as I stated.

Vic men thrashed QLD Men, whilst SA men accounted for NSW men to set up the big showdown!

U20 Men Final = VIC vs SA

Vics being led strongly by Mitch Creek, Chris Patton, Drmic and Josh Wilcher in particular...but they have a very deep lineup.

SA Boys over NSW by 7.
Bond has best for SA with 7 three's, with a huge corner fadeaway that was ridiculous!
Maynard and Spehr once again played a shutdown game on Cadee.

Vic Boys over Qld in a tough hard fought game, but Vic held out Qld by about 20.

SA women over WA women, in a very tight game, pretty well neck to neck for the hole game, with SA holding out WA. SA played average at best, and if they play like that tomorrow they wont bring home the gold.

So as the finals look;

SA v VIC Men
SA v VIC Women

My predictions,

VIC Men
VIC Women

when are the finals? how much does it cost to watch?

Wish both SA teams the best of luck.......

Guys?

Sa lost by 3 after being up by 13 at 3 quarter time, scored only 8 points in the last. wilcher dominated with 33 points

Is it true that Scotty gave them a 3/4 pep talk?

The Vic umpires can't be any more biased than the MARs ones

Anonymous (269418) Why would you say crap like that (where you there) The boys did thier best... Just the type of comment you would here from a tool who has no idea.............

I agree with Jack. MARS refs are terribly biased...against the home team.

2 vics 1 nsw refs

Anon, I don't even believe you are a Sturt person with a stupid comment like that.Yes he is a tool. Unfortunately momentum in sport is a hard thing to stop. Well done to the boys for nearly getting there. Silver is still fantastic.

Yeah I agree, sure the guys are pissed, but they still have silver...

For both SA teams to make GF a real credit. What is disconcerting is how many sa kids have missed out on AIS or development chances all because Mr G didnt take off the blinkers. Some of the VIC girls performance didnt prove AIS is worthwhile or beneficial.......Guess it proves AIS not what its cracked up to be???

What are you saying really!! You have no idea!!
Maybe some previous comments are just green eyes.Obviously their kids missed out and are trying to justify it.I would like to see parents keep it real and stop bagging the kids that got there(AIS). These kids and the previous couple years of kids are the furture of OZ basketball and need our support, their era will play a big part in future worlds and olympics. Players that are not part of the current or previous group of AIS will obviously not be exclude as kids peak at different times. So parents/friends dont stress if yr kid is not there as yet cause there is still time toi make these sides and also dont bag the kids that are there. They are doing their best qand didnt pick themselves!! They are good players!!

AIs ..are they the best?...not sure how you all feelin SA but from across the border a lot laugh at the selections and AIS selection is just a continuation of the whole state team philosophy.Whist there is club coaches and family connections involved I am sure there will always be perceived bias.The system will always remain due tto the fact you cant complain when in the system and once out of it you will ne looked upon as a whinging parent.The vic system will NEVER change as the answer is always the same...IT must be the best system ,we still win everyting
In a way the only people supporting a vic team are the people in it

a timeout with say six minutes to go when vic got it back to ten points and a point guard had lost the plot would have been better than waiting till they had it back to four points with four minutes to go!!!

Wasnt at the game but watching the live stats.......thought maybe an SA change was needed as players may have been tired? Rotations seemed to stop?

Nicole Seekamp - Tournament MVP.

ONYA Noodle!

Men's & women's MVP's as follows:

R.E Staunton Award for U20 Women - Nicole Seekamp
R.E Staunton Award for U20 Men – Corey Maynard

Well done to both!

Nice to see the SA boys get some recognition in "The Advertiser"..........NOT

Congratulations to Corey Maynard on MVP.

SA men would have a chance to stop the VIC onslought in the last qtr if their "coach" was to call a timeout to slow the tempo down a little bit and try to get their heads back into the game

ANON: I was a little disappointed at the over-all coverage in the print media for the championship.

Even the BA site was short of articles...

Obviously no one is interested in following it..

SA Men should never have lost that game, but hey take your hats off for the Vic boys they never gave up or lost faith in one another and as for the performance of the little fella with number 4 on his back that scored 33 points he was the difference between them winning or losing a Gold Medal. Goes to show the AIS doesn't select the "best" players. It comes down to who you are and how tall you are.

Or maybe how good you will be at "international level" relevent to Junior World Championships and those players comparitively able to play in those tournaments.

But keep bitching, I'm suer it makes you feel better to be ignorant.

How sad when people assume that an opinion means that you are "bitching". Obviously observations at a National Tournament hit a nerve with some people. Do you mean to say, that every boy or girl at the Under 20 Nationals, who did not have AIS selection, would be unable to compete at an international level? Very big call Really!!!

Really: Shame on you, we all know how hard it is for selectors to pick between some players and there is not a lot of difference between some. Some that are picked are picked over U19 players as with the girls currently at the AIS who are predominately in the U17 group, all good players but just as good players have missed out.

Shame Vic Womens coach did not fight to the end gave up after third quarter and had starting five sitting on bench for the last quarter. Unlike her counterpart Vic Men who never gave up, was very embarrassing to watch. Team was completely coached out of the game.

GO SA!!

What I am saying is, that some of the kids who do get selected aren't able to compete at international level.

But, those selecting players have vast international experience. And I am suggesting that you have none. And as such your opinion regarding relative player ability, as you have never seen them train against each other, nor their improvment based on feedback in relation to international needs means you are delusional to think you know better.

I couldn't watch the Mens final, but sounds like it was a good match.

In the women there were a few key points to the win.
Shooting at 48% throughout the match
Pressure defence
Transistion

Every player played a good game. Mentions must go to
Nicole Seekamp - Great week, capped off with a great all-around final
Georgia Minear - Was consistently in the right positions, drawing players out of position and finsishing the good team work
Kelsey Ireland - Had her best match of the tournament, showed the leadership oncourt.
Cara Boothey - Completely cut Kunek out of the game, almost to the point that her own team seemed to not want to pass her the ball.

It sounds like Really is one of them people whose nose is firmly planted up some ones behind to possibly get their kid in the know. God, got to love them!