Isaac
Years ago

Richard Hill to move into off-court role

Assistant Coach of the Hood Sweeney Adelaide 36ers, Richard Hill, has decided that he will not seek re-appointment for a coaching position with the team next year.

Hill will take on an as yet undefined role within the organisation in an off-court capacity.

Hill informed the team and club of his decision prior to the team's last home game Saturday night.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

You beauty. Now get rid of Ninnis & Brad Hill.

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LC  
Years ago

Bit hard on Brad Hill...if he moves on he is likely to hurt the 6ers on court at some stage.

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Mutley  
Years ago

This is a pretty honourable move by Richard Hill. If Ninnis is to continue as head coach then he needs to be flanked by an assistant with extensive NBL coaching experience.

Good luck to Richard and thanks again for his contribution to the SOS group.

I don't know what it means for Brad Hill though. Mind you, I'm not that concerned about that.

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TR  
Years ago

That's a risk I'm willing to take LC.....

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Mutley  
Years ago

I agree TR. I reckon Nathan Hawkes might have hurt us once, Matt Reece a couple of times. We'll get over it.

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Tru Blue Emcee  
Years ago

I know there's alot of Brad Hill haters out there, and the people who like him keep going on about his "potential", i personally think he has massive potential, and all its gonna take is a couple of break out games and he'll be back on the radar of every team in the league IMO

So i would be willing to give him another season, and i agree with LC, let him go and he'll hurt us...Eventually!

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TR  
Years ago

Do you think NBA teams think "shouldn't trade him in case he hurts us in the future".

Sometimes it can be addition by subtraction. In this case, as I stated, it's a risk I'm willing to roll with.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

"Bit hard on Brad Hill...if he moves on he is likely to hurt the 6ers on court at some stage."

This ain't junior basketball, every kid wins a prize etc. He's a professional basketball player (allegedly) and he's already been hurting the Sixers on the court for awhile now.

If anything I might've sounded harsh on Richard Hill but if he were to remain an assistant coach it would've been unlikely Ninnis would be given the chop as he's a part owner of the club and a new coach would want to have some say in their assistants. This move is the right one and at least gives the SOS group the option now of axing Ninnis.

I just hope they don't continue going down the ultra-cheap route and plan on keeping Ninnis on as an assistant to avoid having to pay him out. No half-serious head coach would be interested in signing up for that.

What we need is an experienced head coach who is both respected enough by the players and willing to finally bring some sort of defensive ability to the Sixers.

The new coach should be former Crocs head coach and current Tigers assistant Ian Stacker.

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Tru Blue Emcee  
Years ago

"Sometimes it can be addition by subtraction. In this case, as I stated, it's a risk I'm willing to roll with."

Fair call too TR, i just dont think this is the last we've seen of B. Hill either with the sixers or not.

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SRT070  
Years ago

He hurt us badly against the hawks. when i was watching brad hill in overtime he was playing like his 4 team mates were on the bench and it was him against 5. screw his potential, he needs to stop thinking about himself and use his team mates more. but with the season over its time for him to move on (if anyone would ever pick him up). not meaning to be harsh but there have been too many stuff ups on his behalf with regard to turnovers and ball hogging at crucial times when he isnt the hero he thinks he is.

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XY  
Years ago

Had to be done. Hopeless position of conflict of interest, notwithstanding that I bet he had the best of intentions. Good decision by Richard.

As for Brad, in my view you can't retain a guy on the offchance someone else may find him useful. Either he is right for this team or he is not. Evidence to date suggests that he has very little to offer.

I am not so sure about this so called 'potential' he has. Brett Rainbow was athletic and could throw down a great dunk. It didn't make him an NBL basketballer. At the end of the day, to fulfill his potential Brad needs to re-wire his brain, and basketball smarts is the hardest thing to learn. In my view, he is already too old to learn it. He is no Joe Ingles or Brad Newley that we should be too worried about letting him 'get away'.

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Skud  
Years ago

Good move here, I dont put blame on assistant coaches since they untimately play the coaches plans. Also means he doesnt have to tell his kid...your out cause your a liability.

I dont get LC how ppl like yourself can critisize Groves or Gilchrist and not think Brad Hill is worse. He is athletic but being athletic will NOT give him the smarts he needs on the court. If at this age you cant read a play, run a play or think about what your doing, your not going to learn it..its really that simple.
We had a 15yr old in the Olympics yesterday...shes developing and shes already in the top 30 in the world. You dont develope at 24, you should be at your absolute peak since in a few years..things start hurting and slowing down.

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Loco  
Years ago

Good decision. Cheers to Richard for his contribution to both the SOS behind the scenes and the Sixers on court.

+1 to Ian Stacker coaching Adelaide next year. (Or Jan Sterling).

Re: Brad, it depends on who we pick up, but the "he might hurt us" defence doesn't hold IMO. As someone mentioned, if he doesn't fit the team, he's hurting us 20 something games a year as opposed to a worst case scenario of like 3 playing elsewhere (not that I think he'd hurt us elsewhere anyway).

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Makes perfect sense to have the former Crocs coach, being an Asst to Ninnis.
Backstabbers delight.

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Big Marty  
Years ago

Brad Hill has potential.

But sometimes it's best for that player to grow to their full potential with another club. Hill seems to stagnate here; might be worth having him under another coaching group. Someone like Joey Wright or Al Westover or Rob Beveridge may be able to get more out of Brad.

He may be good in a few years, but there's only so long you can wait. I'd prefer it if he became a star through non-sixer means and then having the Sixers bid to get him back. Would be better for him methinks.

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Camel 31  
Years ago

"Ninnis is meeting with the board,right now." - on TV news. "Discussing changes - most likely asking for an experienced assistant coach."

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DJ  
Years ago

Richard Hill stepping aside was the only chance Brad had of staying on perhaps?

I think Richard has a bit more fiery in the belly and more vocal than Ninnis, but without ever seeing him being a head coach perhaps it's like his son, potential.

I'd keep Brad but bring someone in (pay brett maher) to teach him some court smarts!

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E  
Years ago

bye bye Brad Hill! I was willing to give him another chance to make me believe in him but.............HE WAS HORRIBLE on sat nite.

Jacking up threes, trying to be the hero, Bad decision making, lack of intensity, poor handle, tunnel vision, BALL HOG!

I hope he gets a chance elsewhere and does well because he seems like an ok guy but please lord.........PLEASE DONT LET HIM BE A SIXER NEXT SEASON!!!!

thats my last comment on hill!

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EC  
Years ago

Why would people have Stacker as an assistant to Ninnis and not the other way around?

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bretts the man  
Years ago

Right move by Richard Hill but surely replacing Ninnis is more important than worrying about Brad Hill.
He is just 1 player Scotty has taken us to btm for first time with his selected team and his direction.

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LC  
Years ago

Skud - I'll take a little nibble...

Firstly, I am an unabashed supporter of Australian home grown basketball talent, and I believe the vast majority of my thread replies support this. Therefore I make no apolopies in supporting a young Australian player over any import.

There is a big difference between an import and a young Australian player in the NBL. An import is brought in, generally paid a lot more money, and is expected to perform game in game out. And whilst we would obviously love to see this in our homegrown talent also, history shows imports have been and will continue to be judged a lot more critically than a local player whether you like it or not. Personally, I would rather see an import moved on rather than an Australian.

There are clearly arguments for an against the retention of Brad Hill. I merely suggested the statement made by the first anonymous post was a bit harsh.

Brad Hill played under Goorjian the previous season with the Dragons and was a lot more consistent in his performances and was beginning to lift the lid on his potential. IMO, moving back to Adelaide to play under Ninnis appears to have set his progress back a step or two. Is it the team? Is it the player? Or perhaps, is it the coach? Maybe a combination of all three...

I believe Brad Hill may yet realise his potential and is still likely to be a very good player in the NBL. Whether that is at Adelaide or not is yet to be determined.

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Tru Blue Emcee  
Years ago

Don't forget Brad was also playing thru injury half the season too...not an excuse but could contribute to his inconsistent play...

I have nothing to explain Saturday night, but one thing could be, he wanted to be the hero to keep his position on the team, prove to the fans he is a keeper (obviously didn't work lol)...hey just throwing it out there!

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Player23  
Years ago

Like i've said before, talent or not he is flat out a dumb player! Doesn't matter how much practice he puts in, this will never EVER change!

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thedoctor  
Years ago

And Skud, I agree that Brad Hill has missed his chance to represent Australia at the Winter Olympics :)

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annon  
Years ago

I would go for the following for 2010/11
Stacker for a 2 year appointment flanked by Rupert Sapwell and someone like Andy Simons .
I would get rid of Flynn, he is a major thorn in us going forward.
The club is about to undertake a major recap of the year and should get the following scores
SOS Excellent effort by men wanting to see the sport go forward in a new comp.Need to get the players visable in shopping centres, stadiums and have some cheap offering for merchandise that get people to wear it at games ( a sea of red !!)
Coaching Staff average considering they selected the team and constructed the moves during practice.
Players generally below average because they finished last, even if it was the most even comp in history.

Last is last , end of story

Rupert is a good coach and communicator as is Andy Simons.

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Loco  
Years ago

What do Kevin Brook's coaching credentials look like as far as an assistant coaching role?

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Player23  
Years ago

Let's be honest with a couple of things mentioned above...
"Allegedly",Norwood players have had their own issues with Rupert with rumours coming out that he isn't a very good coach. But he does continue to hold onto his job, even though it was advertised and has now won back to back titles (with a very good side mind you!).
Kevin Brooks has been sighted at numerous Sixers games and almost seems to have some sort of role there. Has stated only just recently to a "friend" that he wants a head coaching role in the NBL. Has coached one maybe two seasons at Woodville in the ABL and won one Championship. Went up to Wollongong and was Eric Cooks assistant before being let go during the replacement of Eric.
Was head coach of the Wellington Saints in 2007 in the New Zealand Basketball league where they finished 9 and 9 for the season.

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Junga  
Years ago

LC, Brad Hill never played under Goorjian. He only played one season away from Adelaide in 2007-08, for the South Dragons team that went 5-25. He spent most of the season getting over an injury (was it the broken arm injury he suffered the season before with the Sixers?) and scored 2 points in 4 games. He then came back to the Sixers when Ninnis took over.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Interesting fact in the ABL that Richard Hill (Mavs) continually out coached and beat Scott Ninnis (Sturt) when Scott by all experts had the better team, in fact I don't think Scott ever won against a Hill coached team.

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Isaac  
Years ago

Can you remind me which seasons Richard coached there? Was he there for the season Mottram played? There were definitely some good match-ups between those sides.

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Nix 84  
Years ago

Did he out coach him in the years Scott won back to back ABL championships?

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Camel 31  
Years ago

"Put together a team thought to be competative, within some budget restraint." Ninnis said on radio.
"Perhaps did not appear to be as talented as NZ and Melbourne - but they didn't make the finals!
Certainly, I never expected to have this and the season review goes on with regard to everything - coaches players, to make sure that this never happens again. Ballinger Burston Herbert Ng suiting for the 36ers for many years is desired."


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SRT070  
Years ago

I too would be interested in seeing Kevin Brooks take up a coaching role, he should atleast be considered as an assistant coach. I have spoken to him at a few of the games (i dont know him personally but just chatted to him as a fan) and i asked him if he was interested in coaching or getting involved in coaching in the NBL to which he replied "hell yeh". He has experience he should be considered, whats the worst that could happen? finish on the bottom of the ladder? lol.

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rediculii  
Years ago

anon 268180,

You are exactly the reason this forum should never be taken into consideration by anybody outside of equaly delusional people.

The 2 years Ninnis coached ABA, he won a title. Now, unless;

a) Richard wasn't coaching ABA at the time;

or

b) When he did, either Richard or Ninnis never both coached the Sturt v Eastern matchups,

your statement that Ninnis NEVER won against a Hill coached team is rediculii. (note: mutiply rediculous)

You should be named and shamed, have a paper bag put on your head, and never be allowed to post again on this site. The hoops forum basketball world is dumber for the experience and thanks to people like you Adelaide is still seen as a big country town with uninformed fans.

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EC  
Years ago

True Blue, what is Hill's injury? What is it that is serious enough to continue for half a season but not serious enough to stop him playing right through?

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