HE IS ALOT WORSE THAN WHAT U SAY!!!!!!!!

He wont be back I Hope!

he will his father is part owner and assistant coach

well all im saying is he aint a good play make too may errors so we dont need him

Pretty simple really.

Argument against Brad Hill:

hE bad play only rEasn he in 36er becoz his Dady coach he make 2 many error an hog ball SAK hILL NOW!

Argument for Brad Hill:

Still very young. Didn't come on in 09/10 like many expected him to despite showing glimpses of his massive upside. Has decent size for a SG/SF, the ability to guard multiple positions and an improved jumper. Plus he's our biggest penetration threat after the two imports. Decision-making and composure need work but he's still a pretty clear keeper.

I Dont know if he is under an injury cloud or if his confidence is down but he is not the same guy who scored 30 Against the breakers in the playoffs last season.

Maybe all those spin move travels in the first few games hurt his ego. who knows?

Brad Hill at his best is worthy but we haven't seen him at his best ALL SEASON.

Its either a BIG PAY CUT and points drop for us to keep him ore BYE BYE

Why the Long face Brad???

E, recently I had a quick word with him and he believes he is in the best condition for a long while but more strikingly, he thinks he is playing well.
How wrong can you be Brad!

XztatiK youve lowered my impression of you with that crap.

Downside of Hill:

He is 23, and ppl expect him to mature like a 19yr old player should. At this age, if your not performing your not going to.
Hasnt improved at all over the last few seasons.
His defense is horrible to watch, 5ft away while they shoot isnt defending someone.
Has a complete lack of ball handling skills, which once again hasnt progressed since he began.
Poor thinker, makes consistantly bad decisions and shots.
Cant shoot at a consistant rate.
Penetration is obvious and good teams shut him down easily.
Primarily an attacking player, that doesnt score.
Same Avg score as Herbert, a known defensive player.

Upside:

Penetrates well into open areas.
Has height.....
Rebounds ok
Looks fantastic on the end of Ng's Alley's
I HONESTLY cant think of anymore.

I know Ive said this to many times but 23 is not young, look at NBA players that are the same age. If you havent learnt how to play the game intelligently now, how long do we wait for him to do so.

he can play every 9 or so games, mentally a bit soft i reckon, probably our best athlete though and a great 2 pt player but probably needs a hard strict coach to force him to bring it every game. 1 more chance i reckon and if he plays like a girl then bench him for the year

i think the kid needs a good firm coach.

i saw him carve up the taipans a while back,i mean carve up,believe me,what i saw was a young guy with heaps of potential.

i dont say that shit randomly.........36ers need to get a coach who can coach the full spectrum of the game and roster at hand.

i admit at times he looks average,probably needs a good kick up the arse on the bench....maybe the nepotism thing has some legs in that area.

He's a 12th man at best and certainly not worth a spot in
this shrunken league with more talent available

I've said it time and time again, but he has not earned his position on this team. I totally agree with Skud as to all points made. One brilliant game over 4-5 years is not a good enough output. And if what Dave has reported is true, my goodness is Hill deluded! To be honest, seeing the way that Brad Hill plays makes me wonder what sort of 'coach' his dad is. If he was my son, I'd kick him up the ass! I think that we could recruit someone who is much more consistent and a better fit for the team.

People know my feelings... Choose between him and Ng. Can't have both in the squad.

If so, TR - then Ng has improved his game from last season, while Hill has gone backwards from last season-where he was in our best players at all or most of our away games - whilst not playing well at home and earned selection for this season. But has not played anywhere near as good as last season.

Aw from memory Ng played in Singapore last season.
(Ng has improved his game from the last season he played here.)

Just mad because I won the prize Skud.

Ohh I thought that was you in the Background!!!

And serious retarded ppl have feelings, if they could use a computer and log on here they'd be pissed at you all for being so mean!!

alright that was rude, they are some of the kindest ppl ull meet, Im done.

Its insulting for them to say Brad Hill could be one, hes clearly closer to being a monkey!

Issac, you have been saving that picture haven't you?

Thanks Skud, you did my dirty work for me so I don't have to make any comments here. Everything you have said, ditto.

Yeah I must have missed his improved jumpshot.

Bring back Matt Sutton in 2011.

A year in SEABL will do him well and he can come back and control court while we find a BIG who can get some boards , allow Balls to stay outside and make shots without fear of injury.

Hill plays one on five "O".
Turned the ball over last night and gave up lay up and foul , then game over!

Been doing it all year, SOS can afford a poor year on the court in 2011.

Sick of Liam as well. For once I agree with Boti!

Needed to go to College to make the most of his talents in my opinion. Not disciplined enough to make it at the moment, but has "got away" with it in the past because of his athletic ability and being a secondary player in the sixers offense.

Now teams know him, he gets shut down. He leaves his feet to pass way too often, and doesn't finish well enough around the basket under pressure.

I wonder if he has any residual problems from the nasty compound forearm fracture and nerve damage from 3 years ago?

"skud do u even know richard? he wouldn't do that kind of thing and just back off people give him a break"

No I dont know Richard, but I think you might notice Ive never said anything about someone called Richard..SO BACK OFF!! (insert yosemite sam here). Pls read comments before you make them, stops ppl looking silly ;)

As supporters we have a RIGHT to say who we think can play or not, I dont pay good money to give a player a break. Perform or find another job.

Unfortunately it doesn't matter how athletic you are, you simply cannot teach basketball smarts and that is his biggest downfall. Yes he does dribble the ball way too much, but that play last night with 5 minutes to go, to turn the ball over and then give up a soft play for a 3 point player was one of THE DUMBEST plays I have ever seen!!! We all get taught if you are going to foul either foul early to creat a side ball, or foul hard enough not to allow a shot to get up. What he did was pure STUPIDITY!!! He will never ever get better at being smarter...Let me ask the question, what other team would pick him up??? I don't think anyone would! Get rid of him!

I do feel bad for Brad. LONG road back from such an horriffic injury. Really does seem like his confidence is shot to hell. Shame, as he does have some upside, especially athletically.

There's parrallels with Scotty there too I reckon - Adelaide son that potentially needs to be let go for the sake of the club being successful.

Some tough off season conversations to be had. It's easy to be ruthless on a faceless internet forum - god knows we all do it - but man it'd be hard having that convo face to face.

Still - we're here for wins and titles. That's the only focus we can ever have IMO.

I've already said my bit defending Hill in other threads. I still believe the right coach might turn him into an NBL star, but he's done himself no favours with his play this season.

So I can't say I blame some people for wanting to see him dumped. Don't know if it deserved its own thread though? Seems harsh to focus so much on Brad when the entire team has looked just as clueless for much of the season.

And if it was me, nepotism wouldn't be a problem, because I'd be replacing the entire coaching staff and letting the new coaches evaluate who they want to keep!

I don't think Dave has talked to hill. Brads played banged up the whole season even having to talk injections early on in season to play. He didn't have a preseason with makes a big difference. I'm not saying he should be here next year but those are the facts so u think with a healthy body and a preseason he be a better player.

Forman was on the same grounds as Hill a few years ago. A player whom everyone knew had the potential to be great; but couldn't do anything with Adelaide. Joins the Breakers and suddenly sparks up and has become a staple player.

Hill *may* become a better player; but considering his tenure with the Sixers, it would be better for him and our club if he *grew up* with another team.

If his dad is any sort of coach/owner, and the decision was made to cut him; he'd do the right thing and let him go.

The kid can play. Get off his back and LET him play.

We have persisted with much worse over the years. The kid has a chance to be a big time player if he can get over this lack of confidence.

Every player goes through it, some are all the better for it.

We've already seen the best of Hill, IMO. Obviously he's a great athlete and could be potentially lethal on the dribble, but he lacks either the basketball-IQ or the confidence to execute. He'd be a nice option if he was 8th or 9th on a deep bench, but apart from that I don't want to see him next year. I agree with what Loco said, basically.

As someone who has copped it before on a number of forums I would ask that you have a think about what you're writing before you post it.

Sure you're entitled to your opinion, but think about the impact it might have on the person if they happened to read it, or their family members (for example, the off the cuff uneducated comments about Hill's father making sure he'll be there next year). As for the retarded posts, you'd want to hope there are no retarded basketball fans or their families reading this.

You might spend a lot of time on here and create your own little world, but a word of advice - your comments can go further than this thread and impact on the personal lives and/or business of others, so have a think about what you're putting out there before you click Post.

Just to clarify, my image post was directed specifically at Frank for his abuse of language.

Bear, interesting point about college and Hill - could've helped him.

FWIW, I think Hill does OK and has room to improve but would need to be cheap ($ and points) to get re-signed. Leave him out of 2011 roster workings if you want, but I don't love "get rid of x" topics all that much.

I also think the "Richard will make sure he stays" claims are unfair. Both Hill and Ng had shown ability in recent seasons to make a claim to a roster spot regardless of the involvement of their respective parents.

Hill should be given another year if we can get him as our no 8 or 9 impact player and because also we owe it to family as they are part of saving of club.
But to make work Dad must get off coaches bench and obviously have a experienced quality head coach.
Then under those circumstances I believe Brad should be given another year.
Hey anon. regarding amount of turnovers Brad did would not be half of turnovers we had from a import with about same court time.
And some poster want to keep him as Aust. player.

if u are refering too cortez yes he has had a few turnovers but he is finished as a bball player hill aparantly has a futer i dont think so he is too old 4 college and nba no chance in hell

IF - as some are suggesting that we will/should sign garlepp Burdon Hill Molitor - I'd take Groves as an aussie over those.

CORTEZ GROVES is finished

HILL is finished

Isaac, please delete Frank...

then we can all cheer...

FRANK IS FINISHED!!!

so whats the big love on hill detroit

So... you're saying I DIDN'T win the prize???

No, you're number one too.

HAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAA!

Frank there is no "hill love" from me, I just can't stand your posts!

tell me what is wrong with them and il give u an answer

What about the idea of signing Ben Madgen when he is finished with college? They are about the same height from my memory, Hill may be more of an athlete, but Madgen would probably be a smarter player, better shooter and all round contributer. He has also had 4 yrs to mature in the american college sytem....