Big Joe is a nice guy but the way he unequivocally defends players against anything and everything (even the brats) is disappointing because he's become an enabler to bad behaviour.
These guys are pretty much all saints in his eyes and as a manager who is known league-wide for being close to his players he should be steering them in the right direction and using a bit of tough love, not giving them a pat on the head when they treat people badly.
They are learning nothing but apalling habits they will struggle to undo later in life or at other clubs.
Two of the guys mentioned in another thread are really going to struggle to recognise positive people when they come into their lives.

All that did was make him resentful and spend more time in the company of people who lead him astray and tell him 'his coach is shit'
The current methods are not working.

Undermine those in charge?
Get a clue!

Mr bEn if you demand that others back up their statements you might need to lead by example?
They might be high on the ladder but they are getting their asses kicked by their coach in the media and are higher on booze and other stuff.

Come on Mr bEn back it up unless you can't

Sounds like the same ANONYMOUS individual trying very badly to undermine those in charge at the moment. Sad.

Just because the players don't care it doesn't mean that they don't have people around them sticking their neck on the line, and even fans who have a smaller level of concern, who are worried.
Someone has to care.

Finally someone agrees with me on that point.
I'm not saying big Joe is a bad person, that's part of the problem he's too nice and just turns a blind eye to things or gets involved in issues players have with their friends and it's not his place.
Players don't have to give a list of all their friends to the club and get it approved, so some people who are having the tough conversations with players are just being branded a problem by guys like Big Joe, and they're not the problem, it's the enablers and the ones who lead these guys astray and discourage contact with good people!

Big Joe lives with Gibbo. Enough said.

Poor HAHA has to post as an anno since he lost all credibility in that last thread..

I agree. That TC2 guy made him look silly. He's cool, and probably handsome too.

TC2 - yes it does stop with the coach, but maybe the teams manager should show some leadership as well.

Everyone agrees he is a great guy and does his best to keep everyone happy. Im still however not convinced if he is that good a person to have as a public image of a professional sporting team.

Joey is still always respectful though and acts appropriately.
TC2 stop big noting yourself and thinking evertone else here finds you as amusing as you do.
Are you bi polar?

No, it's a joker free zone.

I really don't understand the big deal about players going out and drinking until the early hours of the morning, obviously this is unprofessional the night before the match but on any other night they should be free to do as they wish. Now if their performance on the court is not good then I can understand the public and the team not being happy with the rumoured players, but it is a part of the basketball culture around the world to behave like this and it is only now with the internet that it is getting out there so easily. I am not saying this is right but it is how it is. Craig is a good player who is young (only 26) and who should be playing better no question but he will work it out sooner or later or he will be out of professional sports because the league in Australia is not such a hard league to play in unlike leagues in Europe. Craig came through the Tallblacks during an era when they were a great team and he was the young guy on the bench. He benefited greatly from this seeing how they prepare for the game and players at his position like Pero how he was able to out perform better players. The problem with Craig I think is that he has made a little money and he thinks because of this he is much better than what he is. To be honest where and when has he played really well in a professional environment. Best advice for him is to knuckle down and prove himself on his own 2 feet he only has to go to Pero and ask advice or watch how Mika practices and plays and do the same. To blame it on injuries is a cop out every player is always injured with something and if it is so bad dont play then.