qld's should be very strong again

how do these teams go with their players being in college teams? I can think of a fair few qlders who are in the states now.

why do SA announce the teams so late?

The sad fact is (injuries aside). If Victoria did something unusual and selected on talent alone and sent two state teams it would be so they could face of in the finals.

how do they select if its not talent based

ahh I see...so there is a small problem in the vic metro ways?

Titan,

how do you explin them losing to SA in the U18's in their pool game 2 years ago?

Vics probably lost because they don't pick the best players, it's a well know fact here. They tell you themselves prior to every try out. Whether it be State or ECC or ITC that they pick who they feel will work into their teams regardless of how well your child may have performed. That they pick on team dynamics or who they feel may have future potential regardless if they have performed poorly or not? The perfect scenario to push who ever they want. Thats why so many good players don't even bother trying out any more. 99% of teams are generally picked prior to try outs and everybody knows it.

the teams should be known by now surely...

Do I see some Victorian in fighting here boys...

2010's gunne be a shitload better than I thought....:)

You hit the nail on the head Anon. Change is definately needed!!!

everyone knows there is a lot of politics and unfortunately back scratching as well as nepitism in basketball, but it seems like a no win situation. Like politicians, you finally get rid of one lot to have another lot equally as bad or if not worse take their place. The Vic coaches have more than enough experience and game smarts no arguement, just some of the decisions within the selection process can be more than questionable. But to question is Taboo.
I am sure this probably happens in every state. Realistically state is good for the kids that are looked after, but only a small drop in the ocean once seniors come along.

Who tried out for Under 20 teams?

There's no way in hell that Cambage or Jarry will play. Look at when the 20's tournament is; right in the middle of the WNBL finals. There's no way that Bulleen will let their All-Star center and best hustle player go to a tournament where its certain that they will be gunned at by opposition teams with no other means to stop them. And thats not even mentioning the fact that they'll probably miss an all important finals match.

That being said, it'll be an interesting test of Titan's Victorian hypothesis. Because it's been Jarry and Cambage that have carried their team at the championships, and that age group has won the title every year they've competed.

All states have to submit their list of 10 by some stage this week, so we'll know soon. Im interested to see how many country players are able to cleave a place for themselves in the team. There is probably some sort of obligation to have one or two in the team, but when Titan claims that the Victorians have enough depth to fill 2/3 teams it makes me wonder whether the country players will be more of a hindrance then anything, especially as that years country squad are nothing special.

I think that the Vic women will still win the thing, with NSW as a close second.

Dexter Kernich-Drew - 6foot 7 Youth league player of the the year in 2009. Did not make u16, u18, u20 state team. Best potential athlete in age group and will be the only one that plays at high d1 college level in the US, has the physical capabillty and size to play in the NBA. The State process is f--ked as we are simply not developing the high end talent and just trying to win age group gold medals..We need coaches in the system that can manage personallities and get the best out of our athletes not ones that are hitler types that have 50s ideology and stuck in there ways on how the game should be played. VIC Metro has currently not 1 player in the Australian national mens team and if we continue the way we are going it will stay that way for many years to come..

SA Under 20 ??????????
The players know why can't we?

SA Under 20 Men
Jan Warbout (Sturt)
Brandon Brine (Southern)
Nathan Spehr (Sturt)
Tom Daly (Sturt)
Corey Maynard (Sturt)
John Marriot (Sturt)
Lachlan Prest (South)
Peter Hooley (Norwood)
Josh Bond (West)
Rhys Elliott (North)

Tony Casella (Head Coach)
Michael Humphrys (Assistant Coach)
Judi Roberts (Team Manager)

Interestingly the Vic womens 20s coach has picked her own daughter in the team? Funny enough she has never made a team before... I'm still laughing

How's it interesting?

mayhem

Where can I see the vic womens and mens team lists?

re: State teams?
SA Under 20 Men
Jan Warbout (Sturt).................5..sturt..good
Brandon Brine (Southern)...........(4). Should
Nathan Spehr (Sturt)................2..sturt
Tom Daly (Sturt)....................1..sturt..good
Corey Maynard (Sturt)...............3..sturt..good
John Marriot (Sturt)................4..Sturt..maybe
Lachlan Prest (South)
Peter Hooley (Norwood).............
Josh Bond (West)...................(2)
Rhys Elliott (North)...............(2)

Tony Casella (Head Coach)...............STURT
Michael Humphrys (Assistant Coach)......STURT
Judi Roberts (Team Manager)

"Lets guess the starting 5"

Exactly anon. Now you know what i am talking about. People are meant to be put in these positions to find and develope the best possible talent at their disposal. Does this happen, i and many many others don't think so.If it was line ball, then my opinion wouldn't matter. Unfotunately it is all too obvious. Other Vic teams to be announced after ECC. Let's see if i am right - other girls 18's mainly dandenong - dandenong coach. 16's mixture dandenong, melb, bulleen with couple of others - coach ex dandenong, now melb with bulleen connections. Boy's, just got to look. People who get offended by this, sorry but that's reality,suck it in, we'll see if i am right - hopefully not. Until the other states pose more of a threat in junior competition, vics will always be able to get away with what ever they want.

I bet,
Do I denote a touch of sarcasm there?

As a point of interest, how many of those U20s at Sturt started at the club?

OK, so 3/6 from juniors and 2/6 moved to club. Hardly that criminal is it?

It's more of a reflection on the good coaching programme at Sturt rather than egotistical parents

has the vic womens team been selected yet? if so who made it?

At least 6 of the sa players play ABA you would think that the starting 5 would be from that group of players.....

Vic State under 20s Woman is -

Alice Kunek
Morgan Pink
Lucy Dawson
Alex Sheedy
Ash Stonehouse
Cortney Williamson
Nicole Zammit
Ash Hirons
Maddi Garrick
Rebecca Cole

Where are Creed and Harrington?

Harrington is probably tied up with Bendigo Spirit?

Creed is out with a bad injury.
Harrington, wnbl commitments.

What is her injury?

I heard some of the picked team are also injured?

Creed has hurt her leg.

Yes, Sheedy is apparently injured.

Titan & 471
Surely u can understand a coach has his/her own style and will select a team to suit!
I've no idea who the 20's coach is but, no doubt she (as i read above) would know her own kids strengths/weakness better than any. And that would have been, I imagine, her toughest decision!
As for 18 womens I heard him with my own ears, spell out exactly what he was using as the basis of his selections. Yes there are alot of Dand but they just happen to have some seriously talented talls and a very clever guard just look at the AIS roster! 16's adding in a couple of others(Nunawading, D.V) you've got nearly all the top teams right there. No brainer!
Good players will always miss out simply because they do not suit the coaches own style. those players who miss out should have someone in their corner looking over the feed back sheets with them, reassuring them that it's not just about their talent.
The true tragedy, is THAT PARENT who deludes their child into thinking "I was robbed". They may be great offensively, but how about a bit of running in D! Even pass the ball you have the talls how bout a dish, vise versa kick it back out to a great outside shooter. Think about it!

Come now, the only reason why there are so many Dandenong girls in the U18 squad is that they are all under the belief that if they don't flock to the coaches home club then they won't get a look in.

Who cares if its true that you're more likely for a spot if you play for Dandenong, we'll never know because there is an ingrained belief in the Victorian junior program that you HAVE to move clubs in order to make a team. We will never have the chance to see what would happen if there was no club bias, because there aren't many players who are willing to find out what would happen if they don't move clubs.

SA Women's Under 20 Team List?

Four weeks to tournament and no announcement what are they waiting for?

SA Girls I think?

Ireland
Minear
Seekamp
Hooley
Cutri
Spencer
Stabile
Boothy
Walker-Roberts
Seebohm

Who is the Vic Women's coach? There's nothing on the BV website.

Chizik's a better commentator then that idiot Darren Boyd or whatever his name is.

I think the Vics look pretty strong this year considering no Cambage, Jarry and Allen. It would be nice if there clubs could release or the WNBL have a 10 day break to allow those kids to hit the floor. Although i would of thought Dandenong could release Allen as she doesn't seem permanent on there roster.

As for Coach Chisik, it looks like she has put a contingency plan for when the big breaks down. We never were able to do a scout on Pink (any relation??) as she was always injured, has anyone seen her play? Vics still have 6 girls that have been at a junior camp, thats pretty impressive, And i've seen those kids compete at those camps, it'll be tough for the reds to bring home the gold.

Apparently Sheedy has been at the Tute for a trial, can anyone confirm, sounds like Phill and the staff believe she is more than just an arm chair ride!!

Whats Kunek been doing since she left the tute, i think thats the best chance for us if she's out of touch. Williamson tore us apart as a bottom ager in ballarat aswell.

Im glad im not coaching against the Vics, they will be tough especially if they rotate Sheedy, Stonehouse, Dawson, Kunek and even Garrick in the post/perimeter. i'd go to a zone.

Well you stay classy San Diego!!!

vic state team goes 6 deep and hopefully the starting 5 is picked based on the best players. Vics talls will not be able to get out of there own way and should only hit the court if desperately needed. My starting 5 would be as follows.
1. Cortney Williamson
2. Bec Cole
3. Ash Stonehouse
4. Alex Sheedy
5. Alice Kunec

with maddy garrick and nicole zammit mixing through the 2-3 positions and sheedy and stonehouse through the 3-4 spots.

feedback on your starting 5 would be intersting to hear?

-interesting to note jess guela, a player that has not missed a state side be it bottom or top age also missed out funny how politics work maybe that was the daughters position?? tis tis BV i think someone needs to wake up and smell the roses??

Wakeup, you are on the money!!

The coach's daughter will be the starter for the 2 position as Cole is at the AIS and this will be the excuse for her not to start as not around for trainings or practice matches, very devious. Writing is on the wall, would love to know the other girls dropped to get the daughter in the team.

Politics at work, don’t understand how BV could give a parent a state team regardless of credentials, farcical to say the least.

Jess *Gourley could play on any states roster as starting point guard. Its just a shame that she's in the same state as Williamson, both of whom have remarkably similar physical build and are evenly matched in most respects. I guess Williamson must've done something right at tryouts to take Gourley's spot.

understandable and im not saying williamson should not be in the side but surely there is room on that team for both? zammit could push to a 2 spot leaving the two best point guards in the state backing each other up? what a force and a hard match up up for an opposition point guard to have two class acts that never stop running at 110%?

The Coach needed to make room for the daughter and Gourley was axed for a player not up to National standard. Williamson/Gourley would have made the games very interesting for match ups. Agree Zammit as good at the 2 position.

Haha yeah, funny how you are complaining about the Vic's depth when they are [and always have been] the deepest State in Aus.

I think that most from VIC are shocked that she could be so obvious and had hoped that she wouldn't do it! Sad also for the daughter as now no-one thinks that she could have made the team legit! But anyone who knows anything about the coach new that she was going to do it and she was smart enough to cut kids early in the process who posed a threat. VIC will win and it will be all forgotten just like everything else at BVic.

I think that most from VIC are shocked that she could be so obvious and had hoped that she wouldn't do it! Sad also for the daughter as now no-one thinks that she could have made the team legit! But anyone who knows anything about the coach new that she was going to do it and she was smart enough to cut kids early in the process who posed a threat. VIC will win and it will be all forgotten just like everything else at BVic.

I think that most from VIC are shocked that she could be so obvious and had hoped that she wouldn't do it! Sad also for the daughter as now no-one thinks that she could have made the team legit! But anyone who knows anything about the coach new that she was going to do it and she was smart enough to cut kids early in the process who posed a threat. VIC will win and it will be all forgotten just like everything else at BVic.

Great career move by the "sturt" guard to make this mens team.
I am sure his ability would have got him through if he had not moved clubs???

Hanging round,

Of course he would. He was there two years ago, before he moved.

The only prob I can see with this SA mens team is a shortage of 3/4 players (at least 5 out of 10 should play 1/2). But they're a great bunch of young men & I wish them all the best with their preparations.

Actually 6 could play guard, so I am guessing they will play a lot of 3 guard ball, occasionally going big with 2 guards or even smaller with a 4 guard line up.

If you are going to pick your kids in a state team they better have a name like "Andrew Gaze" or CJ Bruton, otherwise it is going to look bad.

Isn't Maynard over playing college ball???

no

Hangin around - throwin out non too subtle hints. I'll take the bait!

The "sturt" guard had quite a good career playing regularly for his state and training with the Emu squad well before he moved to sturt. Ability???? Career Move??? History now, get over it.

Perhaps this 17 year old just sees value in an ace coaching staff and a good development program. Now that's a good career move!!!!

Anon, I'd prefer to avoid naming under 18 players, but if you aren't adverse to doing a little digging yourself then have a look at the rosters of clubs like Bulleen, Nunawading, Waverly and Melbourne from a couple of years back when this years 18's were still playing 14/16's and join the dots yourself.

Not all the players I am talking about will make the team either. But they (believe) they'll get a better look in if they play for the right club.

the sad part is for those very talented kids that miss out on state teams,whetheit be because they dont fit the team or politics these kids also miss out on being looked at by the AIS

I'm not so sure there....I think if the talent is there...they are seen....not much now days gets thru unseen...

Shaun deserves that nod coz he had a great season with Horsham in Big V Div-2. By the way why is Igor Hadziomerovic not on the Vic U20s roster??

Whats happened to SA AIS girls Seekamp/Minear....Is Seekamp injured again?? Minear having trouble to even score? Our Vic team should wipe them I reckon

Why would Victoria place a parent into a coaching role at State Level, I dont know any other state that would!

Is the coach aware of the talk on this!

Its fairly obvious that the Vic's won't be "so confident and big headed this year" - they don't have Jarry, Cambage, or their starting PG Creed.

Then again, having the coaches daughter makes them invincible, right? ha.

Victorian guards couldn't find sand in the Sahara

Why arent SA AIS girls getting much court time

Because the tournament hasn't started yet.

Anyone have any ideas about who the Vic 20s womens team might be?

The captain that is?

A guess might be Williams the Point guard

Just to add a very average team by all accounts.Cole may struggle without her favourite Point guard there,and some unusual selections.Someone else may be able to answer but reports we hear is that the 18 vic squad touched them up for a second time and a little disharmony is surfacing

Are we sure el Capitano isn't the coach's daughter?

Haha

But i'd be prone to thinking that no captain would be announced until they've got the whole team at a training - something that won't happen while they've still got three girls at the Tute only 9 days out from the tournament

Who is the daughter..player list and coaches names dont match up....or isan assisstant coaches daughter

vic state team coaches ,doing deals as usual,coach and assistant walk around with blinkers on.

I hope Vic win gold at the nationals,and shut you all up!
do you honestly have nothing better to do?

vic under sixteen selectors,had trials but selections already make two weeks pria at bulleen meeting.

u/16 selections have only just started a couple of weeks ago so how long are they going to drag on trials if they have already selected ? no wonder people get pissed of at the end of it all when kids bust there gut for really no reason

nopoint36,

Are you suggesting busting your gut at high level training deosn't make you a better player?

Or that over the training process, some players will adapt to the coaches instruction more easily than other and thererfore make the team in front of them?

Because I am confused as to your reasonings. Sure some kids are going to miss out, but some will be better for the expereince and others (with parents like yours) will only go away negative and therefore never improve.

im not saying the training is not good for the kids but if what cares55 says is true they shouldnt be calling it trials because the players are already picked but instead they could just name the team and let the others train too that way kids dont build there hopes, the only people that are happy with the way things are done are usually the ones whos kids are in the team already, or know the coaches running it

Do you really think that the coaches have picked their teams? Or are you believeing what an anonomous poster on a website says?

Or do you think that it might be the parent of some kid who didn't make it, and is looking for a excuse other than their kid wasn't good enough?

Any idea why everyone write "there" instead of "their" in these forums ? Great Australian illiteracy ?

they dont have kids

vic under sixteen coaches should be sacked for there corrupt actions and back door dealings.shame on them and basketball vic for letting this happen,shame to teach so many kids bad morals.

Vic under 16 team. Couldn't see it coming. I posted two months ago with what i thought the team would be. Coach coaches at Melb but hangs around the big knobs at Bulleen WNBL. So where does the majority of the team come from? these clubs. Why, because they're so talented,don't think so. Unfortunately, yes the coach is a bit of a "i'll scratch your back if you scratch mine", but that's the vic way. If you are under the perception of work hard and you will be rewarded, you will be sorely disappointed. Don't worry the same coach had six players from his own team in state teams two years ago and couldn't win jack in Vic, go figure. Take some advice, juniors is all crap, the talent will come through at the end. And yes, the idiots that keep allowing this to go on should hang up their hat or grow some balls.

titan 78

well said and well spoken you sound like some one that has morals.Its great to see someone that speaks facts and if the truth hurts stiff,well done titan78.
Sack the under 16 girls state coaches before basketball victoria cant turn around for the good of all kids?

TITAN 78 AND TRUTH:

Obviously your daughters missed the cut.....???

l might do a deal next season ,and go to melbourne or bulleen so l can make a state team.Everyone else did this year.Well done basketball victoria,I suppose itc tryouts are worth going to this month or already choisen by the same peolpe ,waist of money and time then.

SA Watcher,no just didnt know coaches well enough.

I wonder why one of the selectors quit half way through girls 16 state try outs.??

SA watcher. no my kid didn't miss the cut. Just happen to know the players missing versus the players picked and how it all works is incredible. girls program you have U/20 coach picking own daughter plus half injured side. 18s coach picking 5 players from own team plus 2 more for emergency. 16's going for how he can advance himself by looking after people. The girls program co-ordinater sitting idley by not knowing whos arthur or martha, it's a shambles. Now, how to fix
step 1. No parent to coach. step 2. no coach who is currently coaching that particular age group in the same year to have control. step 3. possibly cap amount of players from any one club to make it a truly vic representative side. Honestly, i am not sure the best way to go about it, but something definetly has to be done or change from all the stale coaches at the boys club needs to happen. I'm tied of seeing all the 5foot high x 5foot wide half balding coaches at basketball vic trying to tell everyone what you need to do to become an elite athlete. With their sporting careers possibly revolving around the school chess club, it makes me laugh ha ha ha!!!

what do you mean,titan78 is wright,if the current bunch of corrupt coaches go down to watch games they sit and talk with the or boys club and put their blinkers and do some deals with parents,and as for naming them everyone already no who they are unless you live on another planet,as for doing the job your self ,their egos will not let anyone else in because they love the power of being some one for once in their lives.this corrupt culture is ripe through all 14,16,18and 20 s vic teams well done basketball victoria.

:)...

Vic stats
players clubs
18's :7 off from one club.
16's :4 off from one club and 4 off from one club[the so called joint ventre]melb& bullen.3 off from the under 18's coaches club.
well done basketball victoria.
where is the panel to keep these coaches honest.
no balls basketball victoria.

Sounds like your problem needs addressing, but I am unsure anyone here can help..

If your pissed, write it down and address it to Victorian Basketball. If it is written you will at least get a response, don't expect the one you want, but you will get one.

truth,

Are you talking about the selector who when they last head coaches a Vic Met team convinced 3 Frankston girls to go to Nunawading with promises of State, and then produced the worst EVER result for an U18 Vic team?

The same guy who continually called FU timeout whenever he could?

If so, the team will be better of without him. So what if they have 4 kids from 1 team there. SA have 5 from 1 team, but you could hardly say the coach has a back patting relationship with the club, maybe the opposite.

Just cause the kids you think can play didn't make it means nothing, other than different people have different opinions.

Problem is your is obviously baised by a coach who is not used to accepting he's not in charge, and he is now accussing other people of exactly what he did for years.

Funny how now that Nunawading doesn't get to poach that they need SA kids to make them strong.

well said anonymous

Why should it be cancelled. Just cause some Vic parents have been promised spots by a selector who has quit?

If anything in Victoria the weaker clubs pushing the competition to 20 teams has diminished the standard through lesser competition and worse coaching for the elite level players.

More people like "truth" think their kids are super stars just because they play in div 1. If VC had gone back to 12 teams they wouldn't even make VC and there would be no troubles.

I went to state trials and watched as the Melbourne selector went round (during one of the early) sessions tapping 4 or 5 girls on the shoulder and having a quiet little chat. No suprise those girls all made it. Oh and if Bulleen and Melbourne are so good how come both teams lost a practice game each? Nothing against the girls still there (good on them) but it is so obvious its political. Coach ex Dand now Melbourne would be wnbl Bulleen as other posts have said. I didn't want to believe it. Everyone was talking about it months ago but I kept defending the process. But then to see Melbourne and Bulleen have about 8 each in the top 25 was incredible. Also I would like to say I don't believe the state coaches spent enough time "watching" players during their Friday night games. Last year's u16 state coach was out at every main game over a period of many months. This just adds fuel to the fire when people say the team was already picked during a backroom meeting at Bulleen. And funny how this rumour has spread because I have heard of it from about 10 different people.
Anyway, good luck to the players who make it. Lucky they have their guardian angels from Melb and Bulleen in their court!

well said sss,l agree 100%,not good for the sport and kids.

looks like im heading to bulleen next season ,become a assistant ,good for state selection.mmmm

Funny how people who have an agreement with a selector who is one of the biggest poaches in Vic met history, then realise he can't get their kid named, try and have a go at other peoples kids who make the team in front of them.

I doubt Bulleen would have you.

biggest poaches in the game are at melbourne and a coach that would be if he could be at bulleen wnbl.the place you that use to be for better odds of selection was dandy its changed this year.go figuire

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Go talk to some other clubs about your coach.

Why not go ask your selector mate who obviously promised you a spot how many players moved to your club while he was State coach.

Just cause he says deals happened in the past when he was coach, doesn't mean they happen now. Maybe the best kids made it. And by best kids, I mean those who listen to the coach and do what is asked rather than those who listen to their whinning parent about how it is someone elses fault.

I feel sorry for your kid, with a parent as delusonal as you they haven't got a chance. In 2 years when they aren't playing anymore, because your club has recruited someone else, it will be all your fault, even though you can't see it.

dont worry everyone when the coaches change next year or year after the team will be different always is just look at this years 18s, with a different coach there maby 4/5 different kids

Was told to have a look at this website today. Wow!!! There is alot of of second guessing....and he said/she said and no-one actually knows. You cannot please all the people all the time. Coaches are now being treated like umpires...Without them there would be no sport......Take a deep breath folks..relax....life if for living not BITCHIN.

Let this kids play!!!

Not this years State coach. Rather it was the selector who quit, who was a past State coach.

As a parent if you are in a state team your going to shut up with the fear that it will cause damage to your own.If you are not in the team you are looked upon as not knowing what you are talking about or as a whinging parent.The system whilst not being corrupt is certainly not transparent.
Easy for state coach's to say "well if your not happy there change clubs" and you could try ...well my club.Is that poaching ?.who am I to say?
I believe too few have too much power.How do you get to the AIS ? Through the state programs and nominations,all controlled by the same people.How do you make a state team?,be at the right club and get selected in their rep program..all controlled by the same as above..ITC, ECC all the same people.Do the asistants have a say?..well they wont challenge the coach or system due to the fact they want the job the following year.
It is sad their is no place to ask the questions, as any suggestion,or query is generalised as discontented parents.It is difficult to explain the decisions to players when nearly everyone apart from a few thinks the system is a disgrace.

Wow, obviously state trials need to be looked at seriously.

Any truth in the observation of one parent that during tryouts that there was actually no competition or games to rest the kids out?

There are plenty of kids that have 'skill' in an uncontested environment.

It seems to me that state teams at the end of the day,have nothing to do with which Representative team you play for. Firstly, if you are good enough you will be looked at,. Then, team dynamics, of course, come into play If you have ever played for a team sport you would know this is true. There is no "I" in team. You can have 30 great players, and a different coach would pick a different team each time from these players. A team is about the group dynamics, and individual skills, of course, come into play. If you chose a core group you would look at the team and at the end of the day the players that best suit that team. I ask the question, why would any coach pick a team of players that they believed would not be the best TEAM. A the end of the day (tournament) isnt that gold medal what our KIDS strive for?

when in Vic just pick your own and you know you will still win...unless your the u/20 Vic women

Hey Anonymous, Remember this post!

re: State teams?
Dexter Kernich - Drew wont play at a decent D1 college to save his own life.

Can't defend his own shaddow!!!

Very Athletic and as soft as a dipped biscuit in your coffee.

He plays at Waverly as it's easy and he gets away with street basketball crap. He is at best a low small D2 player.

Wake up with your best potential players!!! Drmic and Iggy are the only 2 at D1 standrd and Iggy is on the blindfold path to Serbia Euro ball where he will get eaten and spat out, Drmic will go to a good D1 on the West Coast.

Sounds to me that you! like the people you "anonymously talk about" push your own agenda.
to rubbish a player by name on a forum and then anonymously talk about everyone else smacks of a disgruntled player/Coach....I am surprised that Mark did not call you on that comment, but as he is probably smarter than you, he let Dexter speak for himself where it matter's on court......
which if you look at the BigV Site! the .."soft biscuit dipped in coffee".. do I suspect a racial undertone"?.. seems to be quite eloquent in his response to you.
Also can I say thank you to driving my son to becoming the best Baller he can be.
Hey Drim and Iggy good luck in the future.

Maurice

Dexter Kernich Drew is at Washington State, a major D1 program in the Pac-12. Hasn't gotten off the bench in his first game. Didn't he average 20 points per game in one of the Big V leagues that J.P. Wilkinson also play in for the 2009 season? He has to be kind of good, to get a scholarship at Wazzu.

Drew is a slasher who plays the 2/3, and can rebound. He can score, but not sure if he'll defend well enough to get minutes, and must be able to improve his athleticism to stick. He could at least be a quality SEABL player, if he gets decent playing time in college basketball.

Drmic is at Boise State alongwith Hadziomerovic, not sure if he's NBA material per say, but he's certainly a very good player. He's done really well at SEABL, and in the U19 championships, as the guy is tall, can really score, and is a skilled basketball player. Don't forget, Anthony Drmic averaged 15 points, 5 rebounds, and over 1 assist and steal per game against SEABL competition, as he's shown a really improved three-point shot. He scores well in transition, too.

Hugh Greenwood, though, looks to be a real stud. He almost had a triple double in his first SEABL game of 2011, and plays with a good shoulder on his head. He played for Hobart this past year, and I believe he is at New Mexico, playing for the Lobos, which is also D1. I'll be surprised if he doesn't make any impact at the collegiate level, given how well he's played against professional players and in the U19 championships.

Thanks for your thoughts, Anon.

That said, two years ago, I would've stated that the best young players in the Big V league under the age of 20 were Jordan Vandenberg, a 6-10 center who now plays at NC State, Dexter Kernich-Drew, a 6-6 guard-forward who now plays at Washington State, and Ben Bowman, a 6-6 forward who's now at some college (Columbia Cougars?) in the NAIA. Hey, 2 out of 3's not bad.

Vandenberg was a big man who could really rebound and block shots, was a skilled passer, and had enough ability to score inside. His ability to play interior defense, size, and athletic prowess makes him a decent center on a major D1 program.

Kernich-Drew was an athletic slasher who could drive the ball to the basket, and get to the rim at will, and was also a good three-point shooter. He rebounded well, and had decent playmaking skills, as he was an above average passer, and did a great job of limiting turnovers at Waverly. He's kind of skinny though and will need to be a stout defender, but his offensive prowess and athleticism should allow him to get some run if he works hard at Washington State. Motum struggled to get some run early on for the same coach, but he dominated U18 play in Australia, was highly touted, and now is a starter as a junior for Washington State, as Brock Motum now looks to be a very good college basketball player.

Ben Bowman was an athletic forward who was a good scorer who could shoot threes and get to the hoop fairly often, and really knew how to apply his athleticism on the floor. He was a good defender, and found ways to make defensive plays more times than not. Also was a decent passer. He hasn't been able to make it up to D1 however, as he averaged far less minutes than either Drew or Vandenberg.

I hope both Drew and Vandenberg play well in D1. I will be cheering them on.

Hey,Guest
you were right,Dexter Kenich_Drew Has stepped up after redshirting at Washington State University for last season,Seems the coach there is finding him to useful to leave on the bench,
Pac 12 is a fast paced conference,seems to suit him.
His defence is good enough to put him on the other teams best players,he can still shoot and his handles seem to be better.
All in all the opportunity to get stronger and understand the American game has paid off.
Here's hoping he goes on to get better and better,
Seems like Aussies in the College system are doing us proud.