Isaac
Years ago

36ers vs Blaze tonight, Wed Dec 16

There's a two-for-one ticket voucher in one of the recent Messenger newspapers for those that need to be tipped over the decision point. $30 for two adult tickets, or $60 for two family tickets (eight people total!).

This is a pretty crucial game for the 36ers who've shown potential in recent games before shutting up shop before the game has actually finished. Some rumours about changes in the coaching ranks have been doing the rounds so Scott Ninnis will be desperate to rally the team to a win tonight. No doubt there will be a few eyes on Matt Burston also to see if he can continue on from his quality game last weekend.

Centrebet has Adelaide at $1.67 and the Blaze at $2.20. Line is -2.5 and game total is 167.5.

Not sure what to expect from this one. The Blaze have enough threats to trouble Adelaide, get key players in foul trouble and punish poor defense. And they won't start as badly as last time these teams met. That said, Adelaide too have weapons ready to fire and a revised starting line-up (which surely has to be considered this week?) could help get things going?

Who would you start to match up on the Blaze?

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enonymous  
Years ago

Will the Blaze make it here in time with the Virgin problems in Melbourne?

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Ushiro  
Years ago

The Virgin problems in Melbourne related to booking in passengers. I would assume Gold Coast would fly direct from either Brisbane or Coolangatta airport to Adelaide. Should have no effect as those aircraft shuttle between adelaide and queensland

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Camel 31  
Years ago

Sixers have been working hard at training. As they do falter under pressure and have been working on that mental and physical aspect. Burston adds a lot and held a players rally meeting Tuesday morning.

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Camel 31  
Years ago

...About getting nervous when they are under pressure, rgardless of who's on the court at the time...that part is up to the coach.

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Bill  
Years ago

Poblems Sixers face tonight.
1. Coping with the relentless ball pressure Blaze will aply. Gilchrist, Groves, Hill, Ng will have to limit TO's.
2. Who can mark Petrie? Ballinger can't!
3. Holding their own on glass.
4. Having the courage to push against press to create easier scoring opportunities.
5. Scoring in paint and getting to line.

And its a matter of doing all of the above to have a chance of taking the game.
Blaze have a big margin of error in this one and will only have to "not play poorly" to take this one out.
Isaac those odds are ridiculous. Should be
Blaze $1.50, Sixers $3.50.

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Statman  
Years ago

The Blaze arrived yesterday - and I believe Big Joe was attacking the buffet at the Casino last night!

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Sebastian  
Years ago

Statman, your FB account serves you well!!!! :) Joe also indicated it was a rather fine Dessert Bar also

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igotmadskills  
Years ago

if they play the same as they did in the first 3 quarters against the blaze and NZ it will be a WIN.
The easiest way to break the full court is to clear out and let them run, last week we had 3 or 4 players in the defensive side which just clogged it up big time. we then started doing loopy passes that got picked off, thats junior bball stuff. Clear out and get it in its not really that hard, even try a full court pass to really break it up as burston was inside ronaldson many times saturday night but didnt even get looked at when they played the press. High risk but high reward...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Is that arrogant a$$ Bradshaw suiting up?
Would love to see him get in foul trouble early.
Heard a few stories too about how he treats people what a shithead.

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XztatiK  
Years ago

Please share...

With Pero gone I have no one to heckle at GC, I'd like one :)

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Loco  
Years ago

This is the first game I can remember I wasn't fussed if I make it to.

I agree that the Blaze are favourites. I'm really not expecting much from the Sixers tonight to be honest... which usually means they tear the house down, celebrate a huge win and go on to lose an unlosable game the following week.

They sure could use the W as far as confidence goes. Hope Burston's 'team meeting' helped to get their heads straight.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Blaze will have to pay Wright double, one for his coaching gig and two for Bradshaw's shrink.
ztatik he's just a user and treats people like yesterday's underwear.
If you've got smething of benefit to him he'll throw you some crumbs or if you can make him look good but otherwise he's seriously a massive tool with a set of rules way below the average persons.
If you try to approach him about it he'll give you the flick then bitch behind your back when he's worse.
He can't even disucss things like a normal person it's like he suddenly gets retarded.
He's a child and always only thinks about himself but the party lifestyle and trying to stick his you know what into anything that moves will suit him great on the gc.
I just hope he only plays with gc for the remaining season and that's all he can go somewhere else!

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Statman  
Years ago

Loco, I agree, not sure why but I really think the 6ers are going to get up tonight. Maybe Im just being too cautious after the last 2 seasons up here and cant quite get my head around us (Blaze) being the real deal.

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Ballinger Fan  
Years ago

i would not be surprised to see 3 new starters tonight...

Joey's teams are well drilled at full court defence. It will be interesting to see at what stage he introduces the press.

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Sares  
Years ago

Does anyone know is the game going to be broadcast on radio tonight? Or is that just saturday matches??

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Isaac  
Years ago

Loco, I'm actually more interested in the game just to see how they deal with the pressure, what changes are made, and how Burston goes.

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enonymous  
Years ago

it might stream online, but the cricket will still be on I reckon. The cricket is on according to ABC Site. According to the streaming schedule on that same site it isn't streaming either.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I was wondering if their problems with handling pressure is that they don't get the chance to train with the type of pressure they get in games. lets face it most of our guards don't have intense defence (and some none at all, e.g. Ng)

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paul  
Years ago

36ers will win this won for mine. Struggling teams have bounced back all season long, and with the even spread of talent IO dont really see that changing.

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Loco  
Years ago

Isaac - yeah, fair point. Probably learn more about how they'll look for the second half of the season than any other game to date.

Bringing a casual fan with me tonight (3ish games a season) to see what he thinks of it all.

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KingJames  
Years ago

I think the odds are correct for this game. Even that we have lost the last 4 we have been playing some good basketball (besides choking at the end).

We played Gold Coast last Wednesday and had control of that game until Ninnis made some horrible decisions in the 3rd and 4th quarter. Gold Coast also only stayed in the game due to lots of offensive rebounds and weak defence guarding the penetration. With Burston playing more minutes that should limit their offensive rebounds and I think we will make the necessary adjustments defensively to stop their penetration this time.

With Bradshaw coming into their line up for his first game with limited preperation I don't think he will have a big game and will be more disruptive then anything. However, Wright being the great coach he is will only use him sparingly.

Also I think this Sixers team with all the pressure building up will be bursing to have a good game. As a result, I think the Sixers are favourite for this one and will win by about 5.

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Hems  
Years ago

Sares - I don't believe it will be on radio, I'm pretty sure that is just Sat games. Also, won't be streamed online, as it is a fox game.

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Skud  
Years ago

I think if we crumble under pressure again this week some serious changes HAVE to be made. Either the coaching staff arent getting the point across during training, or the training isnt suitable. Or the players just suck, everyone knows I dont think Hill should be on the court, but if he walks on in a close game in the 4th tonight Ill be the one screaming to get him the fudge out.
Ng needs to step up big this game, hes had moments in the last few games where hes turned it on and actually looked like a top NBL player, time to bang out a full game.

Just please get the job done boys, I cant watch this dominant flop style for much longer

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Both of the 36ers games are on Fox this week. Tonight's game & the game in Perth on Saturday night.

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bretts the man  
Years ago

To be a sports follower you have to like giving yourself pain after last 3 games heart breaking losses but also way playing game .
But here we go again.
Then I think how would I like to be a Richmond or Fremantle supporter year after year.
Lets get some rebounds this time guys.
Looking forward big game from Burston helping Adam to have a 25+ game.

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Isaac  
Years ago

Adelaide's Matt Burston needs just 16 points to score the 2,000th point of his NBL career.

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skip  
Years ago

ABC dont do Wednesday night games.

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me  
Years ago

so... there is no way to get this game outside of fox?

Thats a good way to service your fans isnt it.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I think they pretty much only do Friday/Saturday home games not done by Fox.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

me - you could of course go to the game?

and if you say - oh but I live interstate then go somewhere that has Fox.

What more can the club seriously do??

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XY  
Years ago

There is always the ever-reliable NBL live stats...

FWIW, ABC docover Fox games as well, but they are only doing Saturday night games this year.

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hereschenes  
Years ago

891 is doing the cricket anyways.

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Sares  
Years ago

what about those die-hard fans that don't live in australia?? Or does that not make me a 'fan'???

I guess it's FIBAlive stats then........

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Camel 31  
Years ago

Started the best five from last game.

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HAHA  
Years ago

How much longer until tip off?
I hope Live Stats plays nice tonight.

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Andy Bernard  
Years ago

Gilchrist
Ng
Herbert
Balinger
Burston

WOW

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Camel 31  
Years ago

Matthew Burston starting sure makes a lotta difference

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Camel 31  
Years ago

Rotations pretty good.

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Camel 31  
Years ago

VERY good, in fact.

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HAHA  
Years ago

Is my Live Stats working right- it says the Sixers are up 40-28?
One minute it was refreshing itself as 0-0 and the game not having started and suddenly it says 40-28!?
LOL.

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Camel 31  
Years ago

He's gone from being tooo slow at subs to very,very good.

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Camel 31  
Years ago

18point lead at half-time , down to 11 at 3mins into third qtr. Good time-out Ninnis.

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LC  
Years ago

Oh no...is it happening again? With such a large half time lead, in the third the Blaze are making a run...

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Camel 31  
Years ago

Come on guys - steady, steady.

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peter  
Years ago

im witnessing the beginning of another sixers collapse, i can feel it

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Anonymous  
Years ago

The NBL livestats feed has crashed again. Could someone please post the score?

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HAHA  
Years ago

Damn you to hell Live Stats!
Down again..

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Cats Fan  
Years ago

It was 53 to 61 and the score board went dowm

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Andy Bernard  
Years ago

We better still be up when it comes back!!!

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HAHA  
Years ago

Is the scoreboard directly linked to Live Stats? lol.
Weirdness- Live Stats has been down for a little while now..

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Flinders80  
Years ago

up by 6

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Cats Fan  
Years ago

81 TO 79 3 minutes to go. this is Adelaides Season right here.

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TR  
Years ago

Update please........


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Cats Fan  
Years ago

Adelaide up by 5 2 minutes to go. huge shot by ballinger

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TR  
Years ago

live stats is back.........

84 - 79 - 2 mins to go

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statman  
Years ago

Sixers have steadied TR

up by 7 with 1.27 to go

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DB5  
Years ago

86 - 79 with 1 min to go. our ball

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Cats Fan  
Years ago

Make that 7 wit 1:26 remaining. they cant possibily blow this. no turnovers and hit you're free throws and there home. big win by adelaide.

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HAHA  
Years ago

God Blaze came within two and now they're out by 7.
Joey will be furious but with the Sixers agead by 20 at one stage it would be a crime for them to not come away with a win.

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TR  
Years ago

You mean steadying for this 10 second bracket... Stat.

Still a long time to go, and the 36ers have the nerve of a virgin at a swings party.... fresh meat under pressure...

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Cats Fan  
Years ago

Well to the 6ers. this should give them some confidence when they face us. best of luck to you guys on Saturday. should be a hum dingga

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TR  
Years ago

So......... the question needs to be answered.... What was so different tonight in the last 4 mins compared to last Saturday night??

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Camel 31  
Years ago

Steady steady - Matthew Burston and you did it..
Missed most of the season, still a little rusty, but you make a big difference on court.

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HAHA  
Years ago

Better still, what made the Sixers pull off a 20 point lead on a team that's won 5 in a row?
Put that in a bottle and sell it.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

"Adelaide's Matt Burston needs just 16 points to score the 2,000th point of his NBL career."

Done. & in great fashion too

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Offense was as good as anyone in the first half. Finding burston for easy looks( g he makes a difference).

Had to expect some sort of run from the blaze and they hit some really tough shots down the stretch but the boys were composed enough to get it done. Once again offence was stagnant when the pressure was on but will be more confident now having won a close one. Defensive rebounding is a problem and need to work on there commitment to blocking out rebounds but all said and done got a much needed win.. go sixers!!

Tez's stats werent earth shattering again but in the few minutes he saw he was reasonably efficent with a good bucket on the siren and an important drawn foul on the 3 qtr time siren i think. also had a couple of assists i think 2 and good to see team mates rally around him to give him confidnece. Only way is up now

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Brad Hill's shot selection is outrageous, he was making the fans shout in anguish at some of his jumpers and fade aways

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Camel 31  
Years ago

Well done on 2000 NBL points - I saw some tension, some turbulance on and off the court, recently. But you held a players meeting, yesterday and steadied it tonight - effective stuff.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

groves had 4 points but only put up 3 shots.. one 3 pointer somehow rimmmed out aswell but also had 3 assists and 3 big defensive boards but only played 15 minutes. Improved performance???

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KingJames  
Years ago

Good to see them finally start the right players! As well as limit other players minutes. That offense in the first have was brilliant!

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dazzman  
Years ago

much better game by the boys. Offence looked awesome especially in first quarter. Went back to boring stagnent offence in second half but to their credit they steadied down the stretch and closed it out nicely. Matty burston again showed how good we can be when we have a healthy centre.

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Skud  
Years ago

Seriously Ninnis almost cost us that one again. Good win to the guys but our Rotations are disgusting to watch.

Burston hussled well and was covered heavily usually by 2 players in the second half, so we bring on Holmes, then Hill ahhh. Hes not going to solve this bring Cooper in play 2 centres if they keep pushing Burston out Cooper can play under the ring freely, or he can set screens to get Burston under there. Hes not as good offensively but we seriously dont use him anywhere near enough. Hes also competent in pressure situations at the end of games where his D outplays Burston and he can help bring the ball up the court. Why do we persist with Hill. I mean, end of the game we FINALLY bring Ng on and even though he isnt the best ball handler, he has the smarts to help us win. Until he came on that game was lost.

Was fantastic to see a real starting 5, Herbert continually impresses me and deserves to be on played like he was tonight with more minutes and on the starting 5. Im amazed its taken this long to put him there.

Groves well hmm I didnt like his overall game but his offense wasnt AS bad as previous, if he is going to play a defensive role he needs to get his hand infront of the ball ALOT more often.

Well Ive said enough, Good to see them win, I dont think I cold have handled loosing that one.

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illicit  
Years ago

man i thought it was deja vu all over again, but we actually gave balls the rock an look what happens, i felt sorry for cortez tonight he tried hard but nothin was goin his way, LOVED the starting line up Herbert has played awesome lately

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XztatiK  
Years ago

Yep yep yep.

The difference that a true top-tier centre makes to this team. Some of that game was just b.e.a.utiful. When a play just keeps working over and over again without the D figuring it out, that's one of the greatest feelings, Burston combined with Herbie and Pitbull to achieve that tonight. It was brilliant.

Although we still saw a little slump in the 2nd half, I'd have to say Ninnis' coaching was really pleasing. That starting lineup (3 changes) was a killer and although the experiment with Cortez (6th man, played all PG) wasn't overly effective, I only remember him shooting a bad three once, meanwhile he penetrated a few times. That makes me think he's finally been spoken too... at least I hope.

Burston: If he stays fit, the 36ers are as good as any team in the league, Goooood I hope he can. Against undersized teams like that he's a huge weapon. Too big on offence, outstanding on D and out-rebounded Petrie/Bradshaw/Vandy all night.

Balls: Vintage. Offensively unstoppable and his shot-blocking (I counted 4) was crazy. Good to see him going for it.

Herbert: Rewarded for his great form and provided an extra ball-handler, some great passing and as always the best perimetre D you will see in the NBL. I was against him starting at the start of the year but now I see his value.

Ninja: I don't know whether his start was something Ninnis planned in advance or if he just spotted him hit about 20 consecutive threes in the warmup, either way I was in favour of the move, he only hit two but they were tough shots. D was better than usual too.

Pitbull: Penetration was unstoppable and I'll take 2/3 threes anyday. It was a great game, he took what he was given and didn't force anything. I thought he had way more than 2 assists, oh well. Only criticism is the relaxed manner in which he gets it up the floor, which is not a new thing. Our offence looked a hell of a lot better when it started with 18 seconds than when it started with 12. It would seem like an easy problem to correct and it needs to be.

Coop: Not a factor. He didn't do anything wrong but he didn't have an effect on the game and I can't see him having any as long as Matty B's fit.

Holmes: The one that could really suffer from the adition of Burston, he needs to play more than 13mins. Still had a good game in the limited time. D on Maxey was great.

Hill: Not his best game. Hopefully the demotion to the bench gets a bit of fire in that belly.

Tez: I wouldn't call it a pleasing game, but anytime he has less than 8 misses you have to be happy. As I said I was pleased he looked to penetrate more. And I know the coach is looking to get him more PG minutes but when he is on the floor at the same time as Gilchrist, he should not be bringing it up., even if Pitbull's taking a bit long.

Hollywood seats: I don't know who the hell was in them tonight but if Bernie Vince and Trent Hentschel are in the house THEY GET EM!

Dancers: Stick with those uniforms :P

Refs: Mixed bag. I've never really noticed this but that bald ref (NOT Ray Hunt) is quite good. Okay, now that we've got the positive comment out of the way let's move to Sonic the mentally retarded Hedgehog. For those who forgot, this is the inexperienced douchebag who was 50% of the reason Judas Hodge was celebrating two weeks ago. The fact that he has been given another go shows me that BA can't actually watch these guys can they? They just say "look, this guy's available lets get him". He's a disgrace, when he's got people annoyed over an offensive foul called on THE OPPOSITION (Ubaka) you know there's a problem. Bring back the guy who debuted last week he wasn't bad at all.

Back to a few positives, there weren't many travels called today and they let the majority of the clean blocks go which was refreshing.

Blaze: Joey Wright looked to be a natural floor-wiper, a new career path maybe???
Harvey: uncanny shooting, just get the f%$^ up off the floor you Ginobili wannabe!
Defence was shocking, the time it took to adjust to the 6ers' fairly repetitive offence was amazing.

Offtopic but someone mentioned LiveStats, well after I bagged it all last year I think it's worth mentioing how consistent it's been this year. Well done FIBA/NBL.

Now let's smash these Cats...

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The_Champ33  
Years ago

We played an awesome first half again.Faded a bit in the 2nd half, but managed to still win the game.

Burston makes a big difference and I like his game. Herbert is a brilliant player and deserves more minutes.

We hit most of our free throws tonight which added up and helped us win this game.

Let's hope the wins start happening again.

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Ballinger Fan  
Years ago

I thought Brad Hill's shot selection was good, the only thing that was mildly outrageous in his game was that he got sucked in by one or two shot fakes and once he just plain fell asleep in the offence and forgot his cut and left Gilchrist stranded at the top just dribbling the ball..... it got coach Scotty out of his chair and screaming pretty quickly but overall i thought our small forwards in Herbie and Hill were excellent tonight.

Great to see Gilchrist working many options, getting the team into the foul bonus in more than one quarter, and great to see the team getting Adam on the foul line down the stretch.

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The_Champ33  
Years ago

I don't think anyone's mentioned it yet, but Joey Wright took up floor wiping duties for one play. He took the broom off the young fella and gave it a sweep. It drew a cheer from the crowd.

Gilly and a few other blokes on the court gave the bloke a high 5 and laugh at half-time.

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Joshuapending  
Years ago

1st quarter was great every trip down we looked like we a plan and everyone was in sync, burston was great as was the interior passing. Joey was a tool with the
floor wiper, he was doing a fine job. And the dancers uniform was indeed good.

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The_Champ33  
Years ago

I'm loving there Cheer Girls. Many different songs and dances. Uniforms are brilliant.

I'm enjoying the Jai Ho Indian dance.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

IMO Scott did a great job with the rotation and line up tonight. Well done Matt Burston and need I say our captain's a star. it was nail biting, it was ugly, but you guys got it done and we fans walked out with a smile on our face. bring on perth.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Xztatik, I reckon you have tried hard enough to get the Pitbull nickname to take off and it hasnt, its just flat out lame, give it up!!!

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XztatiK  
Years ago

LOCO! Get 'im...

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Ballinger Fan  
Years ago

noticed an interesting stat on the nbl website

that out of the top 6 scorers in the league, Balls is the only one who is not a point guard..

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billo  
Years ago

Half time entertainment idea for when fox is in town - get Gaze to take off his jacket and shoot threes for 15 minutes, I'd love to see that. Otherwise get Pud out from his Hollywood seat and have 1 on 1 v Drewy. You know it makes sense.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Yeah MD was in the Hollywood seat and the Fox guys did an interview with him during the game. Loved that old footage of him, Gaze asked him if he had any kids he said no and Gaze implied it might have something to do with those short shorts from back in the day!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Skud, did Ninnis run over your cat or something?

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LC  
Years ago

A good win. But how can the 6ers let a 20 point lead vanish?

As someone else said, bittle what worked in the first half and milk it...

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Jack Toft  
Years ago

A Win is a win....

I thought the number of offensive fouls tonight was huge! There must have been around 10.

Harvey was a freak for GC.

Shame about Pero not being there - I had a battered sav for him

Tonight's game was more rounded from the Sixers. They have been working on offensive plays which worked. I liked the attempted alley-oop with 0.1sec.

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Isaac  
Years ago

Just wanted to join the chorus of support for Burston (who played a brilliant game - crowd loved it) and Herbert who was excellent last night at finding the open scorers. Ballinger piled on the points while not even being at his best and some of Gilchrist's drives to the bucket were about as good as they get.

I wonder about Gilchrist's court vision at times but he is a tough player and must be one of the top rebounding guards in the NBL this year?

Could have done without the lead evaporating, but we weren't going to maintain that 69% pace from the first half and Harvey was due to get hot. When it came to the crunch, we showed a lot more composure this time, got the ball to the best free throw shooters, and got an entertaining win.

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Bake  
Years ago

I told you so. Either Burston or Ballinger on court at any one time = win. Sitting with father of Boomer at start of the game who asked "Is Boti coaching this team." With respect to starting line up.

Good win but really the only way was up after the past few weeks.

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Mutley  
Years ago

He's had bigger scoring games and better numbers but that was the best game I have seen Gilchrist play by a mile. Glad to see Burtson have such an impact as well, on both ends. Ballinger made the clutch plays in the second half, and Herbert was a revelation. I have to give Ninnis some credit too for designing something that actually resembled an offensive structure in the first half. The revised starting lineup worked well, and Holmes and Hill's first half efforts off the bench were rock solid also. Probably most pleasing was that when they trapped us we had a strategy in place to beat the trap, and executed it perfectly.

Now for the negatives: Brad Hill's shot selection, particularly in the second half was atrocious. Cortez was useless again, and don't anyone try to tell me that it was an improvement. He did nothing last night that Erik Burdon couldn't have done (except Burdon would have known Ubaka was behind him on the break, and he would have stuck that jumpshot).

Gold Coast's 2nd half rally was impressive, with Harvey fantastic on offense, but I think the fact that they came back at us and we held on actually made it a better win than if we had extended our lead and won by 25.

Saturday night in Perth will be a really big test.

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Isaac  
Years ago

To be fair, having either on court at any one time has really only been a luxury afforded to Ninnis in the last couple of games.

Beyond that, I think it's about the mix of players as well. Ng and Balls are going to drag defenders out of the paint, and Adelaide did a decent job of getting mismatches with Burston on Gibson.

Gilchrist just needs to be quicker to spot these opportunities as there were times when they were missed or spotted too late. Herbert picked up on them very quicky when he had the ball.

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bretts the man  
Years ago

Huge win by the team even if we did blow a big lead again .
I thought Burston and Ballinger were out standing and Burston influence on the team both in offence and defence was immense. Wrap him up in cotton wool between games.
Adam enjoyed playing his natural game and played with good leadership and passion.
Herbert adds a lot to this team especially in defence and good ball sense
You could see right from start great team spirit out there.
Gilchrist, Ninja, Holmes and Cooper did their job out there.
Hill -- A believer in Brad with all his skills but a shocker trying to do the wrong thing at wrong time.
Groves -- Well think he has taken lead as our worst import over 5- 7 years in front of Chappell and Tyndale. Although couple of assists and a flashy rebound he has totally lost it and cant even keep control of ball anymore even on the dribble and how bad was the clean steal off his dribble in the open court. He is a total liability out there.
If from your memory think I am being harsh watch a replay of the game.
SOS we have a team that can go all the way please show you are serious about getting the best result for club replace this guy with someone .
If it can be cheap import or if it has to be a local like Davo thats also fine.
The team played with a lot of passion and team spirit last night which helped us when under pressure

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Isaac  
Years ago

Mutley, definitely agree about the offensive structure in the first half. When you're getting that many lay-ups, it's a sign that the movement and mismatches and so on are working. Huge change from past home games.

69% from the field in the first half!

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Bake  
Years ago

Isaac, I concede that a fully fit Burston has not been available to the coaching staff for the whole of the season, but I question the decision to having him come off the bench for games where he has been available. He should have started in all games when he was available to play. Set the tone for team structure and then have a rest, not come on when the team is running around like headless chooks.

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Mutley  
Years ago

Bake, it is a bit hard to start a guy who had no preseason, no real continuity on the training court, and not that much form in his playing time so far, until he ACTUALLY showed something special in a game. He did that on Saturday night, so he started last night.

Isaac, I don't remember seeing us ever get as many open layups as in the first half last night. Normally when we run up a big lead it is on the back of three pointers going in from everywhere (which can have not that much to do with offense sometimes). Great to see!

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bretts the man  
Years ago

Huge point Isaac and Mutley re system to get players free to get players for easy lay ups.
Great to see and hasnt been as prominate in Sixers game since I have been watching. So hope they keep working at it and better than living and dying from 3 point line especially as not that effecient from that area with current team.
And Bretts not there anymore.
Mutley still waiting for your picture on your posts

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billo  
Years ago

Burston's first half reminded my of Paul Rogers' MVP season, just lurked around the basket, caught the ball on the move and finished through traffic around the basket. Made it look easy.

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Skud  
Years ago

"Skud, did Ninnis run over your cat or something?"

Lol no, no he didnt that I would thank him for. As a player Ninnis was fantastic. As a coach he almost lost us the game again. Bringing in Hill in the last Quarter was a disaterous idea that he FINALLY realised. Im not going to say not to sack him after one win, the only time ill take that comment back is when I see us have offensive plays, defensive plays, and when we have a centre on the court 90% of the game.
I know Burston was injured, so play Cooper. Its so simple and thats wats so ugly about his coaching, the simple obvious things are missed.
Once again during last nights game Burston was getting hussled/pushed/shoved/thrown from out of under the ring in the second half which seriously restricted him. Dunno how GC got away with it but putting Cooper on the court would have screwed them at this point. They struggled against a big all night, so when they found a solution, put two one and hammer them. Coops might not get as many in a Burston but I know they would have had to stop hassling Burston as much.

Ninnis put Burston on as a starter, that was his only improvement for the night, thats not enough for me to say to hold onto him. Hes not a new coach, if he wants to develope as a coach do it in junior level, not where Im paying to see a professional do a job.

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Statman  
Years ago

I think your being a bit harsh skud, some of the pick and roll plays and off the ball screens to get an open layup last night were pretty to watch. Clearly the team - coach included - had worked those plays during the week and executed them brilliantly in the first half.

Sure we came back from a big deficit and had a shot to tie it all up but any team with the long range firepower we have can do that. Last night Harvey was hitting some amazing shots - he cant be guarded when he is like that.

Give your team - and coach - credit where its due, you started brilliantly and built a solid lead, weathered a fightback and steadied down the stretch to win by 10.

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bretts the man  
Years ago

Skud also think being bit harsh. Not saying Scotty is a great coach but defenitely last night for the first time I can remember seeing in a Smyth or Ninnis team show clearly moves and systems they obviously been working on during week.
As individuals we can all sit back and criticize coaches moves.
I agree the Hill in last was bad but changed it quickly.
I thought overall rewarded those doing well most of game

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XztatiK  
Years ago

Isaac, yeah last time I checked Gilchrist (Pitbull;)) was leading all guards in rebounding by a fair way. I can't even remember any SFs being ahead of him.

Thanks for 2k10 btw (and skip), I swapped it for the PS3 version today at DickSmith after JB and EB were being hardasses.

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Loco  
Years ago

Classy post by Statman.

Burston was amazing - can't say enough. The cut's to the center of the key, flash open with back to the basket and finish was working for a long time before Joey made adjustments. Only criticism is that he was REALLY struggling cardio wise (for obvious reasons!) towards the end and could have used a breather. Thankfully, freethrows and time-outs helped him catch his breath.

Not sure what happened with about 5mins left to go in the second, but the guys came out of the huddle looking clueless re: match-ups etc?

I almost felt bad for throwing up the big "X / sub" sign when 'Tez jumped OVER a wide open Ballinger to blow a crucial defensive rebound, but I'd well and truly had enough of him trying to lose the game at that point.

I think Ng deserved more minutes, especially as Hill struggled. That needs to be the philosophy - whichever one of them is "on", let them see the greater court time.

Herbert was just great to watch - reminded me of Davidson. Just non-stop hussle and desire to win.

Jacob played his role, buy perhaps could have seen a little more time as well.

Whilst our offence looked great with some off the ball movement and fluidity, we too often lapsed back into the dribble penetration / Gilly stuffing around at the top of the key when pushed. Then again, Gilly was pretty solid last night - if not with some bad judgement / singlet tugging going on here and there.

Good win guys, and much needed.

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Loco  
Years ago

Xz - LMAO! You know why :p

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Anyone know what the crowd number was? For some reason the figure is missing from the official NBL report coincidentally for a game that people in attendance said had a very small crowd.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

3700 bums on seats

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bretts the man  
Years ago

Hey loco glad I wasnt only one that had a hernia attack when Groves came crashing from nowhere knocking Ballinger who had grapped one of our rare and open rebound at that period of time knocking the ball out of court.
That was just in front of us as well as another Groves highlight where driving towards top of key where GC defenders peel off Herbert leaving him wide open screaming for ball.
Groves keeps on driving and then bowls over 2 stationery defenders right in the key and then decides as charging called to try to pass to Herbert.

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Skud  
Years ago

I dont think Im being to harsh. Ninnis has coached for almost 2 seasons now, learning period is over. I dont know many jobs that have more than a 3 month probie period.

Yes last night was better, but still ALOT of small silly errors. He still played out of form players at crucial moments and didnt have a clue of what to do when we started dropping down.
Harvey is a freak of nature when he is like that but once again send Cooper in to help defend him, He has shut down Wortho constantly. I feel like im some huge fan of Cooper constantly repeating his name but we have 2 centres how hard is it to use both of them.

I will gladly backoff Ninnis when he fixes HIS mistakes. Its not our record that makes me want him gone, its that I dont believe he can take any team all the way. Until he's able to change my view I will continue to say that its time to go. I was stoked when he got named Coach, I thought he could do it. Now I dont. So Ninnis prove this person wrong, I would have no problem with that.

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KingJames  
Years ago

"Harvey is a freak of nature when he is like that but once again send Cooper in to help defend him, He has shut down Wortho constantly"

Really is that why Worthington scored 7 points on him in 2 minutes of the fourth quarter when they first played here? Also suggesting Cooper to guard Harvey is ridiculous!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Cooper to guard Harvey?
Skud, you have just proved that ANY comment you have about the game of basketball has been rendered completely and utterly ridiculous. Your a goose!

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XztatiK  
Years ago

I think he meant Cooper would have been a better help defender than Burston/Balls. Not that I agree.

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Skud  
Years ago

Man learn to read. I said the HELP defend him, not to play on him, if you cant read whats being said dont try to put my comments down.
KJ did you watch the last game when Wortho put up 3 three's with Coops hand in his face and missed everyone of them, to then be subbed of and watch Wortho win the game over Hill, Groves.
Watch Burston in D, hes not as willing as Coops to run to the three line. When Herbert was guarding Harvey (freaking well) having Coopers help and height CLEARLY would have assisted him.

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Bizzy  
Years ago

Skud - I find it hard to take you seriously when you claim Wortho hit his 2 big 3's over Hill and Groves - for one why would they be guarding him? Two if you watched the game it was Jacob that he hit them, and Jake was pretty much face guarding him.

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Isaac  
Years ago

X, glad to hear they let you do the trade.

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Skud  
Years ago

Bizzy sorry I should have referenced myself better, Holmes was also defending him. I didnt actually mention his 2 big three's though.

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