Awesome.

Burston/Cooper
Ballinger/Holmes
Grizzard/Holmes/Hill
Ng/Hill/Herbert
Gilchrist/Ng/Maynard

Now for Grizzard and an U23er and we're done.

Grizzard?

Yay, let's get the guy who does nothing but sucked last season.

inbe4hehaslateseasonexcuse.

I know nothing about this guy and I already like him.
I hope that attitude stays for the whole season- the League could certainly do with it.

from people who have seen him he sound good so that's pleasing.

I listened to Brett Mahers radio internet show today, and when Coach Scotty was interviewed, he talked at length about Gilchrist. He likes his defensive pressure on the ball, and his size, among a million other things.

Grizzard is a mystery to me - Looks like a million dollars. Was popular with our other players. But never performed the way you'd think he should.

WRT Grizz, it's always hard to fit into a team half way through season.

If Gilly has got good D, that's enough for me

how old is maynard?

I thought it was Groves instead of Grizzard, or has that changed. Would definately prefer Grizz

justin, from what I've heard Cortez is more likely but like you I'd prefer Grizz.

amped, Maynard is 17 or 18.

Are Burdon and/or Hoban still eligible for a DP spot?

I actually wouldn't resign Grizzard. Met him out after the Maher lunch and thought he was a great guy, but don't think he did that well as a player with the 36ers. Even the couple of flurries of scoring he had (from memory) were both in garbage time.

I think his main advantage over a typical SG is that he'd provide a stronger defensive option up against Perth's White, Pero, Mackinnon, etc - but (1) I can't remember him playing a tonne of tough committed defense last season and (2) the other SFs in the league aren't overly strong: Thomas, Grabau, Saville, Boodnikoff, Tovey, Williamson, etc.

proving urself in 7 games would be tough on anyone. especially after having a big game the week u get axed by ur former club. be tough to figure that out and to re-allign urself mentally. i think he deserves another shot.

As I said in another thread, apparently Grizzard has a good deal in Japan and so doesn't appear to be an option.

Would prefer somebody of Grizzard's size compared to Groves.

I'd still love a swingman who could pinch hit at the point. Where's Rob Rose Mk 2 when you need him ?

Grizzard is not a quality NBL import for mine. He is an ok one-on-one, pound the ball scorer with an average jumpshot. He is nearly 6'10 but is not particularly effective in the post. Good in garbage time when the team defence drops off.

Isaac is spot on, he would give an athletic defensive option, but I think his off the ball defence is more his strength than his ability to contain one-on-one.

I think Cortez Groves will surprise everyone who is judging him on last year’s stats. He is exactly what Adelaide needs alongside Gilchrist to run in the open court and find open jumpshots for Ballinger, Ng and Herbert in the half court.

From memory, how do people rate Groves as a defender?

Groves and Maynard ..then ... it's done.

Cant remember what Groves' passing ability is like. Can he create for others ?

Good work Scottie and co. now up to Ben Fitz and co to ride the wave of positive publicity and start looking at T shirts and other merchandise for first home game. Average fan would spend $20-$30 on tshirt with 36ers logo on the front and look at player name and number on the back.
Welcome aboard John Gilchrist

Re signing of Gilchrist the only negative could be from posters who havent seen him trial is there hasnt been a great lot of excitement before release today about his 2 weeks here . But if he can defend and is as good as being distributing the ball effeciently in a up -tempo as Scotty saying then a good appointment and look fwd to seeing play.
Not recovered from Coops signing yet so trying to get ready for Groves signing but still would have preferred a Grizz type plyr as better fit.
With u- 23 dont pick the best get a kid with a lot of potential that will grow into NBL plyr not another Williams- Kerston -Scalzi etc etc

wow Wiki is fast...

Just talking to a patient of Dr Chek Ng that saw Darren there on cruthces - out of action for a few weeks - knee.

You sure that wasn't Marcus Ng, not Darren?

Aw - not sure then , just what was told to me this morning (that it was Darren) ?
Unless my friend got them mixed up ?

Why isn't Scotty looking for a new import for the second spot, instead of recycling another leftover?

Why do you think Spinner?

There is no defined rule that new is better or worse or that recycling an import is better or worse. I cannot understand the fascination outside of wanting something that might be exciting (because it's easy to ignore the fact that they might be disappointing and whinge about that later). Dave Thomas, Rosell Ellis, Darnell Mee, Kevin Brooks, Ebi Ere - they're all 'recycled leftovers'. Joe Shipp, the lazy guy from the Hawks the other year, Mark Tyndale, etc - all "new imports".

If he recycles a player, quite clearly Ninnis thinks that, for the budget they have, that player is the best balance of risk/potential/needs they can get.

If it's Groves, it's a guy who's put up good numbers before, will have a point to prove, etc.

Adam Ballinger also is a recycled import. Perhaps Spinner we shouldn't have gotten him and instead gone with a new exciting import? Robert Rose is a another one.

Besides the risk factor of getting a new import is the fact they only have limited funds.

Charles Thomas, Mike Chappell, Rod Grizzard, Nick Horvath were also recycled....and failed.

Chris Williams, Kevin Freeman, Jayson Wells and Kevin Brooks etc were all new to the NBL.

The argument goes both ways Isaac.

Let's hope he doesn't come with the Hodge "baggage".... Anyway from a negative to a positive, should be a good contributor from all accounts.

Let's also hope we sign Eze Erik as DP, he is good coming in as a pinch hitter for some quick points and plays a good defensive game! He is one (if I was Scotty) to persevere with for another season.....

Elite - not sure if you're trying to endorse my point or argue against it but that's what I was saying: there is not necessarily a right or wrong path when it comes to choosing new or recycling.

A bit of both really.

I just think the excitement of a new face appeals more to fans.

The recycled imports are those we are familiar with. If there was confidence in them then there wouldn't be the desire to get new imports.

Elite, sure, but that only lasts until they don't perform quite enough and everyone calls for their head. This year, we have a naturalised import, a new face, and (if Groves is the other import) someone we've seen before in the league - all bases are covered! ;)

The reason I raised the issue was because there appears to be too much doubt over the particular recycled players being considered. Neither Grizzard or Groves have shown a lot of consistent form in recent times.

Just to throw the cat amongst the pigeons -we had Farley as a new exciting import and as a recycled version. Which one of those two was better? :-)

"Too much doubt"?

From a few people, most of whom barely saw Groves (as an example) play all that much last season as he suited in a team that shared the load across a deep and even squad before running into a rough screen and was replaced so a new guy could qualify for the finals.

Up against someone who was a coach with the Dragons, along with two ex-Dragons players and those that know what budget the 36ers have to work with, and what calibre of unknown player you might get for that amount. If they sign another new guy, maybe he turns out great or maybe he's rubbish. If they sign a Groves or similar, maybe he's great or maybe he struggles. At this point though, you'll have to excuse me for giving this crew the benefit of the doubt over the skeptics.

I hope you're not serious with that Farley question?!

Great point Isaac.

Ninnis, Burston and Herbert (and Ballinger at Wollongong?) know what theyre getting with Groves, so if they select him it is an endorsement of him as a person and player.