again - not including u21s div 1

no tigers as well

perhaps if centrals and mavs stopped nominating their teams in such higher grades all the time some success may come

1 or 2 teams in an age group should not always be auto div 1 and 2 first

ooops - left 1 sturt and 1 north off Div 3

sorry !

observer

don't you think that by playing in the higher divisions, that you start developing players and playing at a higher level?

I think that the Mavs and all teams nominate at division 1 to introduce their teams to that level, whether they are ready for it or not.

Anyone that thinks that purely by playing in a higher division you will produce better players should be taken out and shot!

So Southern should also not nominate div 1 teams as well?

Pegs,

I agree totally, still can't work out how taking the ball out of the net only to have it stolen for another layup helps either team improve.

In the Know,

All clubs should be able to nominate teams in div 1 if they are going to be competitive. This does not mean that they will make the GF.

But until after the summer season is run it is impossible to know if the teams will be competitive. SO the only solution again is promotion/relegation over summer and 8 teams competitions over winter.

mavs - 10 girls teams nominated over summer

centrals - 8 girls teams

tigers about 18

although no tigers teams made grand finals - there numbers are at least better

blindly placing your only girls in div 1 is honourable - but surely an assessment of their game warrants where you go.

look at mavs stats in u16 div 2 girls - or centrals in div 3 u16 girls - if they improve fair enough - but the mental game is as much as the physical

long term - build your team up

it probably gets back to the theory - "if i can't get a div 1 game at ----- i can get good div 1 minutes at ----- "

which worked for a few - but generally ost stayed at their club

Seems there is a feeling here from these conversations that SA junior basketball would be best served by allowing some clubs to have more than one team in Div 1 while others had none. What a pity BASA does not have our vision!!!!

Don't blame BASA. The clubs have voted on this a couple of times in the last few years, and most clubs are in favour of not allowing multiple div 1 teams, hence the current structure.

Paul - BASA and the clubs are essentially the same body - and therein lays the problem. Each club is worried about its own position rather than allowing a central authority to make decisions that will improve basketball in SA, albeit at the expense of some teams/clubs.

By relegation and promotion, can we honestly say that Div 2 teams would be any better than Div 1 teams that are currently there.

$talks, yep, I know that BASA is owned by the clubs. I was just trying to point out that in this particular case, the decision to stick with a maximum of 1 division 1 team per club was a decision voted on by club delegates, and not decided by employees of BASA.

If the general basketball public would like to influence this decision, they should speak to their own clubs, not BASA.

In the know,

Do you understand the the whole concept of promotion/relegation allows teams to play for the priviledge to play in div 1. Therefore the best 8 teams would be in div 1. I'm quite sure that seeing as the div 2 teams would actually need to beat the div 1 teams that you are referring too. Yes they would be better. Also by cutting the competition down to 8 teams this would allow for each team to play 3 times (in all grades) and provide a fair and equitable competition for all.