Just because you have to have the team into BA by a date means nothing.
A team can be changed up to 30 mins before the first game if necessary.

If Metro Team/s announced why is it not on the BSA Web site?

Any big surprises? Yup sure is. Check it out here

http://www.sportingpulse.com/assoc_page.cgi?c=1-4538-0-0-0&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=8619644

Huge omission, H U G E !!!!!

Bigger suprise is the kid that made it. Funny how having dad as the coach helps.

That kid was a massive surprise! Its amazing he's in you know cos as a big kid he doesnt dominate in points or rebounds, lucky to score 8 pts a game at local competition thats not good enough. Point guards out rebound him.....

how can they appoint a coach who has a child in the same age group?

even if that kid was the best player in the world it would cause massive problems - perceived nepotism is almost as toxic as the real thing!

madness

That's why there's asst. coaches, DO & Country Development/High Performance Manager who all have a say in the team.

Talking U18 Girls; sorry you are gonna have to work that one out as I am not going to mention an U18 player. If you know anything about the age group at all then you will realize there is a huge omission.

Shame SA Country Shame!!!!

Sorry but boy omissions is far greater than girls

But the reason for the girl ommission is far worse.

Cutting that kid,aftter telling her she is in the team, because she couldnt get on a bus at 11.30 at night and drive 3 hours, have 4 hours sleep and then making them train a whole camp after the team is already selected is rediculous.

Clearly she's not tall enough, JB has a fixation on height. Ability Speed and Ball handling dont exist in his little world, you can be the biggest slowest kid that cant finish a training session and still get selected.

If by "JB" you mean "any halfway decent basketball coach with an undersized squad".

A problem you parents have is that week-in week-out you watch your kid compete against people in SA. While your son/daughter may be average height or even tall at your country assoc. and/or district, playing nationals is a whole different kettle of fish.

Any coach who's been or even seen a nationals will tell you that there are some kids there who's skills/speed/agility really shouldn't allow them to be there. But those skill sets won't help you grab boards, deflect or change shots, or shoot over a defender's hand, so the fact of the matter is, your average sized kid misses out.

It's the nature of the game.

All you people with gripes, i'd encourage you (and your kids) to head out to Starplex next month and catch a few games of nationals, doesn't even have to be SA teams. You'll soon understand how big the step up from our district comp to the nationals level is, and may give you some insight into the difficult decisions the coaches have to make in selecting a team that is going to be able to compete at nationals.

scoring and rebounding would help too...

"Sorry but boy omissions is far greater than girls"

Nah, I don't agree anon. Girl omission is a big name & been to the AIS.

But, rules are rules...I guess. Who is the non selection going to hurt? Probably the team come Nationals.

229701 - propose some 'clearly defined criteria' as an example of how you see the selection process to work.

The 10 players with the highest point scoring average in the district comp?
The 10 players with the most MVP votes across all country associations?
Should we design an obstacle course like in the NBA skills challenge and the four best times get to be our guards?
Should we select the two best players with the highest jumping reach as our centres?

You are clutching at straws - there is no way the process can be more 'defined'. There is Albury, training sessions and the camp at 'yorks all structured situations designed to give the coaches the best look at these players. This is on top of what they know of the players from prior years, and what they see at district/country champs etc.

Year in, year out, players who have performed at the district level are overlooked for players who are earmarked under the heading 'potential'.

The problem is that the teams had been selected before Yorks. If it was a selection camp, then who do 2 injured players and 1 player who did not attend make the team?

Plus one of the kids who was cut, was told she would be cut because she wouldn't get on the bus at 11.30 pm at night and drive for 3 hours and sleep for 3/4 hours before training all day. And she is getting over a blood clot to the brain.

The problem is that the coach and director of coaching hadn't even bothered to communicate. ! told the kids she was in the team and didn't mneed to do the camp so she organised other activities in her recovery process, while the other called her 2 day before and told her she would be cut if she did get on the bus and risk her health.

No idea what age group this is all about, but if it's U18, no names or references please.

No one is going to win this argument. Can't pick without subjective criteria (such as educated guesses at potential) and can't make subjective picks without disputes.

From an outsiders perspective (not in SA) but was at Albury and have a daughter in the age group, I'd have to say that if any player omitted from the SA Country 18's was up to Nationals standard, they'd have been included because the results at Albury didn't project to outstanding results in Gawler for the SA Country group (the 16's however, are looking very good).

If they're not in, there's a good reason (though perhaps not for everybody)!

anon #229717,

Considering that at Natonals players will not e made to travel at 11.30pm at night and train or play on 3 hours sleep, I doubt that it has any real realationsip with her participation at a National championships.

It only has the potential to cause a setback in her recovery and development process.

If the coaching directot had even bothered to discuss the athlete's onging rehab and development process, they might have know. And considering the coach had already discussed it and given the OK to not go on the bus and to manage their involvment, the athlete had organised her training schedule around the camp.

Secondly, the athlete offered to travel in the morning to the camp, nut was told that she was cut if she didn't get on the bus with the other girls.

Finally, I love that you wput how the kid is being singled out for treatment because of her parent. This shows how country teams are selected to a tee. Not on ability, but on political basis. If you kiss arse or coach a team, you kid has more chance of making the team.

I would select the kid over all bar 2 other players selected. She is one of only 2 player to attend multiple Australian camps. So maybe they know something you don't.

Dogga & 229880 - do you understand the injury/condition this player has had?

If i were coaching, i wouldn't have even put her in the squad on the injury alone. It would simply give false hope. The nature, seriousness, impact of that injury/condition is far more serious than a game of basketball in the first place.

Putting that aside, the time away from the game & seriousness cannot be undone over "the last 2 weeks".

If she wasn't comfortable/confident/happy to sit on a bus for 3 hours, then why pick her for a gruelling week long tournament?

Sitting on a bus for 3 hrs, regardless of the time is far less strenuous than a nationals. (please try to argue that point!)

Have a think about what you are saying before re-posting!

This is getting too specific when it comes to individual cases and will now be locked. Take it up with more official channels if you have a dispute.