#19082

Perhaps BA are smart enough to realise that allowing these teams helps to grow the sport throughout the region, which in turn assist to grow a talent pool, which in turn can help our leagues.....

They are not great sure, but from little things...

#19082

You are an idiot. Like HO said..By including these teams in the tounry, it helps Basketball Australia immensly.
Also, to say that NZ are a bad side is just stupid. The Under 16s and Under 18s beat alot of teams, except the Vic teams. If you say that NZ are not worthy of being there, than what about Northern Territory or WA Country,(who are generally the worst). Do you turn around to them and say your not good enough.

You sound like a guy that doesn't even follow basketball. Are you racist or something towards Oceania people. Did you see what happened at the FIBA Youth Tournament in Guam. Tahiti, who are part of the Oceania, lost to the Australian Under 18 team by 23 points(83-60). Loosing by 23 points to an Aussie side is damn good. You wait, Oceania will be alot more competetive than you think. Mark my words tosser.

#225920

The idea of adding second sides from large states has merit..its a good thought.

Not sure what that does to the integrity of the tournament though....if BA allow "second" sides what happens to a national title if a "second" side wins the damn thing?

Not sure what evidence you can provide that would support the notion that adding more spots at u20 would help with domestic participation though...

Finally, re vision. I think BA have a lot of vision. I think they are quite strategic...but, and I have said this here many times, they ain't got no cash, very little resources, low staffing etc etc....

peoples expectations of BA are totally unrealistic ...its a little like expecting first class service when you fly Tiger airlines.

#225922

Your a tool. Oceania will be competetive. You are making an assumption..Im not. I know whose in the team and they can play. I don't think your a basketball fan either. Please, stick to your main profession of masturbating.

NT can put a team in if they want. They are historically unable to find 10 players who want to go.

How does haveing the tops states 2nd team beat other states promote Basketball in the states that aren't as strong?

226001

Your assumptions are questionable:

a) Is NT, given a tiny playing base and resourcing issues, broken ... or is it to be expected?

b) Will extra teams actually, not theoretically, mean more kids particpate domestically?

c) Does BA allowing oceania to play preclude NT or second teams .... ie, are the objectives mutually exclusive? Obviously I would argue that they are not.

And here's the reality for you. I doubt any state would want to fund, manage or send a second side. hence the 20's are a national champs reflective of state territories whereas the 16's and 18's are made up of country/metro mixes.

ok, so i compared NT to ACT and discovered NT has roughly 40% of the players that ACT does....

so now explain how ten extra kids per state would have a serious impact on local participation.

actually, each state partially funds the trip. BSA put about $8K into each team. Total coast for 10 players and coaches is about $20 - $25K depending on accomodation. This is due to the air fare equalisation program, where each team pays an equal share of everybodies flights.

226087....NZ are not included in the equalisation

Let's put it another way, and I'm not meaning to offend anybody here. If Victoria were able to put 3 or even 4 teams on the court at the National's, all of these teams are still more than likely odds-on favourites to beat NT, Oceania, NZ and possibly even TAS and ACT as well.

However we are a nation operating in states. You represent your state, and country (in the case of NZ), and region (Oceania).

Just my 2 cents worth.

cause we host....

why is MLB called the world series, why do the NBA call their winning team the world champions...all unanswerable questions!

how does it hurt us having either Oceania or NZ play at our events? What damage does it do?

NT parents only found out this year that there was a flight equalisation program. I wonder why they were paying considerable more in the past?

Probably because Basketball NT doesn't subsidise s much as BSA.

NT...because the flight equalisation has only been in place for a year.

226 ...sigh...read the posts above...NZ are not included in the equalization to my knowledge