At some point, wasn't there a rule about number of restricted players per team?

The sanfl has a 'draft' system where incoming interstate players (ie, those new draftees to the power/crows from interstate) are re-drafted to an sanfl club.

This type of system wouldn't be too hard to organise or implement for basketball, would it?

same old same - if clubs were attractive to players then they'd go there
if norwood appeals at the moment - then whats the gripe centrals / weoodville got to get competitive and present attractive option to these players
work harder
if rules getting broken then that needs addressing but if players are choosing certain clubs over others end of arguement
push on build a bridge

Cayla Francis would be handy.
My favourite player, at the moment.
(Like Brogan was for many years, and Hodge is in NBL)

It's all well and good to say 'build a bridge', but let's be realistic, there's no way a Centrals is going to be competitive against a Norwood with three Lightning players by simply 'working harder'. It would appear a system similar to the SANFL would work well, so why hasn't one been adopted? Centrals has been struggling for years, and to a lesser extent Woodville some years, and nothing has been done apart from Centrals being handballed Erin Phillips for two games last season, which was a joke - and reportedly a $10K joke at that. I remember Woodville had a Lightning player for a silly season a few years back, but from memory she didn't play main season, or if she did, it was only for a season.
At the end of the day, it is only going to make the league more competitive. And if that's the case, it would be interesting to see who has a 'gripe' with that...hrm.

Completely agree with a SANFL type system.

If a player comes through the ranks of underage at Club X and plays for Lightning, then should stay at Club X.

Interstate player comes into the state and needs a ABA team, then draft should occur like the SANFL with the bottom team having first go. However, if they have their quota of allocated players, then next team up etc until they are all placed.

However, the old ego does get in the way a bit at times. There would be some who would want to "coast" with a strong team rather than accept the challenge of healpign build up a weaker team.

Having 2 super teams, 4 average teams and 4 scruffy teams makes a boring competition though if the wealth is not dispersed.

For all you Poindexters out there:
ABA women between 1957 and 2008...

North Adelaide 20 GF W, 18 RU in GF
West Adelaide 7/8
Forestville/WT 5/8
Norwood 4/5
Noarlunga City 4/4
Vikings 4/2 (they plundered well!)
Sturt 4/1
Glenelg 2/1
South 1/2
Adelaide 1/1
K-Jets 0/1 (yo, we rock this house)
Woodville 0/1

Centrals 0/0
Eastern Mavs 0/0
Southern Tigers 0/0

May I suggest that the outer Metro three would do well with a Lightning player?

PS I think Erin only played 1 game for the Lions and doubt strongly if $10K was paid to her for one game

Noice work on the stats. From memory, I think Centrals and Erin agreed on $10K, with them pulling a 'swifty', claiming she was an assistant coach as well as a player so they could up the $$, so not sure what she got paid in the end.
Anyway, that is a litttle off topic.

I agree with the spreading of players.

However, I think we should all consider living arrangements for these people. Personally, I would join the closest most successful club near where I live.

For some of the new players, playing in areas far outside the city may not be a viable option. (Who knows, maybe all of them live in Norwood!?)

On the men's results:
1957 - 2008

West Adelaide 14/11 (will Davo make it 15 soon?)
South Adelaide 10/7
North Adelaide 5/4
Forestville/WT 4/11
Sturt 4/5
Noarlunga 3/2
ASK 2/3
Glenelg 2/3
Budapest 2/2
Norwood 2/1
Centrals 1/0
Eastern 1/0
Murray Bridge 0/2

Southern Tigers 0/0

I think it would be fantastic for the league, and give the struggling teams some hope

#219307, very interesting. I really hope that Norwood doesn't win the flag if that's the case. That's very poor and unprofessional on Norwood and the Lightning's behalf. Nothing like politics in sport.
From what I understand, Williams and Duke have already moved across to Norwood.

SPS,
without seeing a contract we won't know for sure how much she was actually paid.

The struggling clubs - Southern, CEntrals and Eastern are in demographics that basketball should be promoting. Young families in booming, growing suburbs. A lightning player or 2 may help a little bit. I know Phillips did some clinics at Starplex last yr.

314,
I had considered that. Forestville and West Torrens was more of a name change than a merger (??) whereas the Glenelg / Noarlunga thing was a bit more complicated and I am sure there would be a few pundants who consider them separate clubs.

I am an old Brisbane fancier myself after living in that State for a time, to me, Fitzroy died, there's no flaming Brisbane-Fitzroy nonsense - that's just the Vics trying to keep a ghost alive!

I barrack for 3 teams in the AVFL: Crows, Brissy, and whoever is playing Collingwood (even if that is Port!)

Jack Toft ...... interesting that Woodville never won the mens' comp, nor finished runner-up. But maybe I'm mistaken ..... ;-)

Now, I think you are right, Moses.
I seem to recall most of those West and South ones.
But I only think there was a Woodville, not sure.

Would Cayla Francis play in local comp. ?

Call me stupid but how are "ASK", "Budapest", the "Vikings" and the "K-Jets" ??

That's ok. I was around watching ASK play. That's how old I am. And Budapest became Norwood around that time. And, there was United Church that became Sturt.
And a CY , Catholic youth that became.. mmmm Centrals , I think........

That was 40 years ago. I remember some of it.

Some hoops posters were playing in those games, that I was watching, 40 years ago. Which is great.

360,
That was just my typo:

errata

Woodville 2/1

So is Norwood becoming the female equivalent of the Sturty6ers???

would it be of an advantage to basketball and the player if a player like mia newley was to go to woodville?

of course valk and norwood will pull the lightning girls - watch and new guns go to canberra if graf still coaches there.

distribute the wealth - yes no problems robin hood ! )

foley will be stateside at another wnba camp anyway

These players want to use the ABL season to work on their game. If clubs don't have a suitabley experienced coach and decent enough team mates, how will that help your game?

Somelike Erin could play anywhere, but a bench Lightning player wants development and strong team mates. Forcing them into a lower quality team could hurt their development and improvement opportunities.

And yes Isaac, I think there is (was) a rule about how many WNBL players you could suit, although might be restricted to starters?

One major difference, MC. Sturt produce 36ers players, Norwood attract Lightning players!

I heard Cayla Francis is playing SEABL in Victoria in the WNBL offseason; with the Lori Chizik coached Sandringham Sabres.

mmmm . Interesting. Thanks for that Page.
Shame we couldn't do something for her here in SA.

IMO the "SANFL Draft System" wouldnt work. I believe players would be upset with not being able to choose where they wanted to play and would probably look to play somewhere else thus SA seeing a decline of players from the national comp.

Although player loyalty may be minimal this would also prevent some players from returning to their junior clubs.

distribute the wealth - yes no problems robin hood ! )

Unless half of them go and play in a different league? It's like the concept of an NBL draft - not enough money in the league to put demands on players. Bit much to tell a player living Northish to play for Southern, or vice versa, when they may only be getting petrol money, right?

Right Isaac and anon

bolks, "ASK" was the "Adelaide Sports Klub", a team of immigrant Latvians. They later became "Adelaide Latvian" then "Adelaide Giants" before merging with Southern Districts to become the "Adelaide Southern Suns", and then merging with Noarlunga to become today's "Southern Tigers". This is the source of the maroon stripe in the current Southern uniform, it is the maroon from the Latvian flag.

thanks Mantis, very helpful.

The restricted player rule is:

Restricted: any player that playes more than 12 minutes/games at the WNBL Level (30% of the teams game time)
Restricted: Any player that is not recognised as an australian citizen (exception: foreign players that moved here before the age of 15,i think, and have lived in australia since then)

Each ABA Team is allowed 2 restricted players;

Each Central ABA Team (SA Only) is allowed 2 restricted players of which only 1 can be an import player.

i don't think williams is a particularly good WNBL player but I think she is a very good ABL player...

she will kick ass

romeo to seabl ??

Thats my mail.