C'mon Bogut
Years ago

Sack Ninnis!

I am sick and tired of the 36's under performing! Sack Ninnis and lets get a real coach. Ian Stacker would be my choice, his wasted at the tigers.
We have a great side on paper, yet we can't get a win!!

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Bruce Beck  
Years ago

Maybe bring in Breheny to work with Scott and this group

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new name please  
Years ago

phil smyth

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Anonymous  
Years ago

haha was wondering when one of these stupid threads would pop up. certainly didn't take long.

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STAT  
Years ago

You idiot

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Drb  
Years ago

Stacker are you serious..dont forget he had a star studded team at the crocs and they didnt win a flag... i agree ninnis has got the squad to do great things..give him time ..it will come

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skull  
Years ago

tough gig for a rookie coach.
if 36ers want instant success,sack ninnis.
the way they have built the team,they want instant success !!
1+1=2

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Anonymous  
Years ago

and they win next week and all you guys love him. You are Pathetic.

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Corey  
Years ago

Spot on Anon!

Funny how when players and coaches these days underperfom, they become so "Dispensible" at the call of the fans!! Especially when the team loses.

Give the guy a break, he is less than half way into his rookie season as a head coach, people forget that all of these other experienced coaches had to start somewhere.....In 10 years time, Ninnis could have 4 championships to his credit and maybe be coaching the Boomers?!?!?!?!?

What will you all say then??? Sack him?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Shame on you anti coach baggers. If you take a reality check we aren't doing that bad.
5th spot has only won 1 more game than us.
We have lost 3 games by 1 pt, 2pts & 6 pts.
We have been rife with injuries.
We have had a crap away draw.
The refs have screwed us on a lot of games.
Last nights game could have gone either way, but the Dragons hit 2 three pointers in the last 2 min and we missed 2 three pointers. This is hardly the coaches fault.
Lets see how we fare after the next 3 home games.

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Samba  
Years ago

Yeah sick of all the negativity on here and how everyone thinks they have the answers! Ninnis is fine, just have some faith and do what good fans do, support the team! We are so close to being a top 4 side it isnt funny!

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The_Champ33  
Years ago

Leave Ninnis alone.

I am disgusted with the calls for his sacking.

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Jack Toft  
Years ago

I am right behind Scott, Richard and Liam.

The team has been challenged by short term issues, not any long term issues. The team is cohesive and strong. Yes, we have been challenged with injuries, poor umpiring, difficult road trips...but the most important half of the season is the second half.

Would like to see some more 3PAs from the team, but the plays are essentially good. What what I have seen and heard from the side lines, Scott is pretty strategic, Liam looks like he is the backcourt guru and Tricky Dicky the front court.

I am looking forward to seeing Scotty and Mahersey lift the trophy at the end of the season with the dejected 'Goons looking on.

Can we do it? Yes we can!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

if richard is the frontcourt guru hes doin an awesome job that frontcourt is firing

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Team player  
Years ago

What this team needs is a player who will get out there and start hitting HARD screens to get team mates open shots.

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Jack Toft  
Years ago

213559,
Not a fan of the Irish boy wizard ?

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Had Enough  
Years ago

Please Isaac delete this topic, its quite disturbing to see such negative replies to such a pathetic topic! Im as offended by this as many get over other 'locked' topics!

Ninnis is staying so support the team or keep this toxic type of discussion to your selves!

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Camel 31  
Years ago

About 12 above are right behind Ninnis and about 2 seem to agree with the topic.

I read in the Advertiser an article by Boti Nagy that the sixers appointed a rookie coach. Which is fine.
But a mistake was made having a rookie coach and inexperienced assistants.

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EC  
Years ago

The 36ers have a talented line up which could be winning a lot more games. They are currently sitting 2nd to last on the ladder. Someone please explain this. I am waiting for someone to give a perfectly logical explanation of this situation that will exclude coach involvement. As someone else has pointed out in another thread, he may be a rookie coach and should be given a chance to prove himself, but the problem is that he has a decent team right now. Please explain because with the right explanation, I could be converted.

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manbearpig  
Years ago

could anyone really give a fat rats clacker if big ol ec is converted or not.

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Camel 31  
Years ago

I would say we under-acheived due to bad luck with injuries. Friday is a mystery to me, that 3players get 71points and 40 rebounds and we lose.
Saturday a lot was due to being held onto and knocked into, and the game not being refereed evenly.

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Had Enough  
Years ago

Happy with that EC, but agreed manbearpig, who really cares if she is converted or not...

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Isaac  
Years ago

Someone please explain this. I am waiting for someone to give a perfectly logical explanation of this situation that will exclude coach involvement.
I'll give this a shot.

We're 5-9. Four teams above us have won either five or six games - it's a competitive season and any deficiency is punished. If we'd won against any of Cairns (one point loss), Sydney (two point loss) or Dragons (six point loss in the end), we'd be in the top six. If two had gone our way, we'd be top five.

Consider Maher's winding down, Bruce is still very young, and Hodge is only a recent inclusion, we're realistically a top five team, but not necessarily higher than top three unless everything comes together perfectly.

A couple of losses stand out as being influenced by the roster available at the time: to New Zealand without Ballinger and Bruce (wouldn't have won, but should've been closer), to the Wildcats by 12 without Ballinger, and to Cairns without Maher or Davidson (meaning that a rookie was running our team for over 39 minutes against a defensive champion in Mee).

You could also add Saturday night to that list. We'd taken the lead and then one of our best two players is taken out of the game by cramp.

In a few games (not sure if it would've changed the result or not), we were also effectively carrying Tyndale.

The losses that I think are a little less excusable were against the Spirit (either time) or the Hawks, but these are both teams that do not give in and have proved troublesome in the past (we lost in Wollongong with Julius last year). I reckon we'll finish the season above both of them, FWIW.

I don't think the players and coaches would be overjoyed with a few of the results this season, but we're not that far off where we should be - second-last sounds very mediocre, but the glass-half-full equivalent is that we're a two-point Spirit game (basically, a Bruce turnover I think someone said?) outside of the top six.

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raytri  
Years ago

Have to agree with Carmel re the Refs, and Isaac. one thing I noticed about Sats game was that without the on court direction of Maher now that he's playing less minutes, Julius settled down the team, directed the play and opened up scoring opportunities. The other thing that was noticable was the lack of people wanting to take three point shots, even they were open and not getting buffeted around. (No ref calls of course)

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KingJames  
Years ago

Isaac that was well explained!

The next ten games we will probably win 7 to 8 games. We have:

Hawks @ home. Win
Tigers @ home. probably lose but could win
Crocs @ home. win
Wildcats away. probably lose but could win
Blaze @ home. win
Tigers away. probably lose but could win
Blaze away. win
Hawks @ home. win
Taipans @ home. win
Taipans @ away. win

This would make us 12-12. Our last 6 games look like at least producing 3 wins and 3 loss's.

Crocs away. Win
Blaze @ home. Win
Wildcats @ home. hopefully win but probably lose
Dragons away. Probably lose
Breakers @ home. Probably lose but could win
Hawks away. win

So I think we will at least finish the season 15-15 if not better!

Sixers fans should start showing more support towards this team! Good times are coming, starting next weekend against the Hawks!

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anon  
Years ago

before sack ninnis lets look at the 3 blind mice

surely they cant continue to ref these games

inconsistent at the least

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me  
Years ago

again..the "me" commenting above is not "me"


as far as sack Ninnis...how stupid!

This year is going to end up a joke..lets have him build a team so that next year will be ready to win the championship, when the league is back to where it should be

the real "me"

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KingJames  
Years ago

Why is this year going to be a joke? We have the possibility of challenging in the playoffs this year!

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Big Marty  
Years ago

For me Ninnis isn't the problem; you need to look at the Assistant coaching more than anything.

The real downside of the team is the guards this season; which I think tends to be due to lack of direction from the coaches.

I think Bruce could easily be a 20/10 player as he showed in his first game, but I think his issue is that he isn't being focused on or directed properly by the coaching staff. Ninnis needs to get more into his assisting staff and tell them to shape up and get into the young guys more.

As KingJames basically said, this team is a Championship contender (if not winner) and that's just from rep and stats alone. If you can't win with this team; you've got to look at the coaching. I think Ninnis should be given more of a chance but he needs to get his coaching staff working and molding the younger guys; specifically Bruce.

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Unley  
Years ago

writing crap like "sack Ninnis" just loses credability in basketball circles around the nation for our fans. Lets be constructive rather than add throw-away comments. Ninnis is a project just like the development of the team. We are in a rebuilding phase at the moment and if you cant stick with the team then, piss off and support Dragons, who may be buying success but dont have and will never have the club culture like the the 36ers.
Get over yourself buddy.....

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bballback  
Years ago

mod why dont you take this crap off, sack harrinson instead your a **Beep** isacc

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Isaac  
Years ago

Who's Harrinson? Harmison?

Also, please keep in mind that there are 5-10 people with moderator privileges on this site who may have deleted a thread or reply.

There was a Harmison topic deleted (that you might be referencing) because it was a topic already discussed in another thread recently.

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DDFan  
Years ago

bballback:

"mod why dont you take this crap off, sack harrinson instead your a fuckwit isacc"

I respect that you're a name dropping try-hard, but it's Harmison & Isaac.

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Skud  
Years ago

Consistancy, if the guys were playing consistantly we would be in a whole lot better situation. That does come down to the coach, its not a reason to sack him, but its something Ninnis needs to really work on. Of course at this level of sport, the players are also highly responsible for their form.
There seems to be alot of hesitation with the Players at some games, when they perform they take their shots and ride high and you realise just how much talent we do have in the lineup...the next game they dont look like they want to score, and look like amatuers.

Its Ninnis first year, we just all hoped we would win a championship instantly with him, most coaches dont acheive that.

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TR  
Years ago

Nice to see your making new friends Isaac....

Ban the fool.......

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DB5  
Years ago

TR, the question is...which one?

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Jack Toft  
Years ago

Gold DB5

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DDFan  
Years ago

Pyrites ..... DB5

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Bake  
Years ago

Sacking a coach mid season is assinine. I have never been a Ninnis disciple, which I'm sure keeps him awake at night. But I think he lost the game on Saturday when he subbed out Brett in the last few minutes. Brett had hit a couple of jumpers that meant he had to be defended, when they brought Hill in the Goons new that his first and sometimes his only thought is to drive to the basket. They just clogged up the centre which consequently nullified our best offensive player and left one of our most reliable shooters off the court in the vital last minutes. I believe a crucial coaching decision that may have cost us the game.

Scott should be allowed to see the year out but every effort should be made to find an experienced coaching panel for next year and beyond.

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EC  
Years ago

Isaac, thanks for your input. I accept what you say as there is merit in the points you have made. Let's hope the rest of the season will be injury free and certainly is already Tyndale free. This no doubt will bring us right back to where we should be. The problem I still have with the season so far is not the injured players that left the team depleted but the healthy ones who have all had their inconsistencies this season. Injured players alone would not have been the cause for most of the losses. What has bothered me more than anything this last 2 games that Hodge has played is not the fact that he is a new inclusion and we would not see the benefit of this so early, but the fact that his results in his first 2 games have been exceptional and yet still the losses came. I would not be expecting a better stat line from Hodge going forward as what he has already produced. This should have been enough to win games. One a side note, I have no problem with Tyndale as an individual. I don't know much about him but have no doubt that he is a wonderful guy. He just did not fit into the team and for the sole purpose of competing in the NBL, his situation had to change. Its nothing personal.

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Isaac  
Years ago

I should've also mentioned in my response before that right now, we're fifth in the league on percentage with 98% (the top four teams are 100%+), and that's including the two blow-outs in NZ and Melbourne, at least one of which was obviously impacted by injury.

EC said:

I would not be expecting a better stat line from Hodge going forward as what he has already produced. This should have been enough to win games.
Not necessarily. The game is won by a team, not by an import putting up 26/8/8. He could put up 40, but if the rest don't help, or the defense doesn't limit the opposition, they're not going to win. You know that.

Bake, wasn't Maher out there at the end of the game? I remember him going up for a shot, changing his mind, and fumbling a dodgy pass to a Dragon which gave them possession. Maybe that was a few minutes before the finish though.

Does anyone have the live scores link cached or in their browser history?

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EC  
Years ago

Isaac, thats exactly why I was worried about the last 2 games. It reflects on the team as a whole and what Ninnis is doing about it. He has his man now, there cannot be anymore excuses except injury to key players and even then I would expect more than one to be out at the same time to make a difference to the strength of the team.

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Mantis  
Years ago

Isaac, Maher was out there at the end, he hit the last 3 with a ew seconds to go. IIRR he came on when Hodge went off.

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XY  
Years ago

I have come to the view that the biggest problem with the Sixers is their passion and energy.

It hurts me to say it, and I will probably get shouted down, but Maher, league legend that he is, typefies the lack of determination and win at all costs passion that the Sixers currently suffer.

It is put into stark contrast with the effort and determination levels consistently shown by a player like Hodge and by every other team in the league bar the Sixers.

That, and not talent, is why the Spirit have beaten us twice. Hopefully Hodge will encourage the rest to lift their game to his intensity levels.

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kman  
Years ago

Can't sack ninnis yet, give him the season and if we dont improve by the end then plan ahead I say Ninnis needs better assistants helping out he has a new squad all different type players and he needs more help. A major issue to me has been Bruce the guy wastes the ball then with 5 seconds left in offence gives off a crappy pass that puts us under pressure for a poor shot, NG is a better player than Bruce.

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DDFan  
Years ago

Is it up to an import to lift the team? If that was the case, I gather you've forgetten our other import. Balls would've brought us to a title on the back of his inspirational efforts in practice sessions & at games.
I'm sensing unrealistic expectations from fans wanting immediate results from a work in progress season.

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Mutley  
Years ago

XY, I agree completely. Just once I'd like to see us win a game simply because we wanted it more. The Spirit have showed exactly that, Spirit, in a number of their games, with a real work-in-progress roster. Hodge could show a little more intensity on the defensive end though.

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EC  
Years ago

DDFan, if I spent a lot of money on a good quality product, I would expect it to perform to perfection straight away.

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Isaac  
Years ago

This isn't a lawnmower!

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SOS  
Years ago

EC,

That is exactly what the fans of every team in the league think. They can't ALL get what they want. the sixers have had a number of reasons, (injuries, inexperience coaches and guards) for not performing to their best yet.

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XY  
Years ago

DDFan, I did not forget Balls. He is an exceptional talent and a keeper, but the one thing that he is not is an intese scrapper who will dive for everything and beat his opponent because he wants it more. That is fine, a team can afford to have some finesse players, particularly when those players fill their role as well as Balls. But the team in general this season has been, well, passionless. Give me the days of Farley doing whatever was needed he did just because he wanted it more than the other guy (he also eventually became a passenger to the system though).

What the Sixers have lost over the last, well, four years (despite coaching changes) is the ability to win the one-percenters. To drive beyond 100% effort and want it more than the other side. I don't know whether that is the system or the personnel, but we just don't have it. Davidson showed some of that determination last year, but it appears to have gone missing with his injuries or something this year. Winitana showed some guts in the pre-season and has shown almost nothing on court all season.

I can remember a time when the Sixers would win close games just on intensity and personality. This was when we had Maher at his peak, Farley and even Dusty as great crunch time closers. I would just like to see some intensity again, and at least with Hodge I will get to see one guy trying his heart out some of the time.

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vanexel31  
Years ago

i thought we wanted the game saturday night. i dont think we need 9 other hodge-like guys out there throwing there fist in the air and waving there arms at the crowd to show they wanna win. in my opinion the problem is defence. 110 to sydeny 106 to south (points given up) isnt gonna win u many games. ive heard a few complaints about the offence in the past few weeks, but ive heard lots about how bruce gets beat, hill cant guard anyone, tyndale couldnt guard anyone now hodge being lazy on ingles. anyone ever wonder why a phoenix suns team with nash, stoudamire, marion, barbosa, grant hill couldnt win? no defence. Ninnis came in as coach talking up how important it was for us to be good defensively, and im to the point i wanna start seeing some d or im going to start agreeing with the title on this thread.

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EC  
Years ago

Lack of passion was a topic discussed under the previous coach. What has changed under this coach? If anyone wants the challenge of answering that question, just remember the only acceptable answer will come when we are sitting a lot higher that 9th on the ladder.

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