Aren't dim sims actually an Aussie invention? Inspired by original Asian version I'm sure, but nevertheless it would be as close to Aussie as the meat pie or sausage.

^^^ sausage roll ...

Reminds me of the Heal and front row fan's meat pie story from the dome a few years back.

Ejected last week and i think he got another unsportsman like call last night it must be hard for Heal winning one game out of his last what is it now 18? and frustration getting the better of him.

i am at every sydney game

i know ceaser i sat a few rows behing hin last night top bloke\


heal is a (Mod: Bzzzt.

All professional sportspeople at some stage are confronted by fans that will pull their chain. Good managers make sure that their clients can conduct themselves to handle that rubbish.

Seeing Dean Bogan at the Sixers game Sat. night reminded me of that Crows fan "You're playing for the wrong team d*****d"

Woody, responding to racial abuse with homophobic abuse misses the point!

I feel for Heal and his situation, much of which I think is not his own doing. From memory, he went to the Blaze as a backup point guard, behind an import. They then backpeddled on getting an import PG (Coz Coach didn't want anyone else to take minutes away from son) and Shane (at 38?) ends up being the highest minutes per game player in the NBL on a crap team. The chemistry just follows Joyce, doesn't it?

Fact is though, a guy who's played for as long as he has should know better and should certainly get sanctioned by the league in some way.

Meh, the jokes on Shane Heal anyway. His comeback in the last 3 years has been about as useful as a condom with a hole in the end.

Hmmnn... this is an interesting one.
Clearly the guy was baiting Heal in a way that even I would think twice about saying to Anstey and let alone having a go at him for that long.
I can't make up my mind about this one sorry.
I know that the players have to act in a professional manner on and off the court- I have earned a bit of a reputation for telling players exactly what I think of them when they fail to do this, and am more than happy to live with the consequences of getting wiped from some of their radars- their loss more than mine.

Having said that, if this guy had said that kind of stuff to me and I didn't know him either, I probably would've clocked him around the head.
In some ways I think he has nobody to blame but himself for what Heal was fully baited in saying back to him.

Imagine if someone you didn't know came to your workplace and said stuff like that to you repeatedly?
I can understand a throwaway comment here and there, but I think this guy really crossed the line.

Most of it was directed at the team generally (Bowen, Pero, etc) and, aside from "biatch" and "shit", was pretty tame. Then, if you want to fire up and respond, there's no reason to take a racist line.

Remember the Brisbane game where the Bullets knocked the 36ers out in an elimination. Mick Hill flipped the bird (weak) whereas Kerle mimed taking photos of the stunned crowd (very clever, and I'll never forget it).

I get the impression that Cez isn't worked up about Heal throwing stuff back at him, more so the racial aspect of it.

imagine heal going to this guys work place and going... way to clean that floor buddy, woooo... shit like that, it would be pricelsss lol

HAHA, reminds me of the Late Show when they did that, going into people's places of work and heckling them...Quite amusing actually..

We could do it at the esteemed offices of the corporation that is known as Hoops SA.

" Hey buddy, you only drive a Ferrari...pfft, don't you know they went out with Hawaiian shirts, and porn Mo's, and Tom Selleck..Get a Bentley".

hahahahaha just read the thing about Williams making racial slurs... got to love his bit at the end where he says something along the lines of: "People can get personal with me, but I can't say anything back" etc etc

Have to say that as much as Heal shouldn't be making racial slurs (was out of line), I think this guy would have done same thing with making a big deal out of it if Heal had made any other sort of remarks (about weight, looks, anything really). I think if you want to give someone shit, then you better be ready to get it back to some degree, doesn't matter if the person with the come back is pro athlete or not.

Interesting to note that a few weeks ago the same thing happened but in reverse - and with a different outcome.

The Wollongoing game was widely reported on with some fans sitting behind the Blaze bench being removed by security. I actually asked Scott Mac what went on and he gave the rundown that the guys were heckling the whole game (Sure it annoyed them but they just copped it on the chin and Mac even said it was used as motivation to play harder) This went on the entire game and they were particularly tough on Like Whitehead. The thing that made it escalate and get the hecklers ejected was when the guys in the crowd starting making monkey remarks and dancing like monkeys in reference to Luke. This is when things crossed the line and security asked the guys to leave. Noone should have to tolerate racial taunts - full stop.

If Heal has make these comments then he really must be held to account as its just not good enough and someone of his standing in the game and experience should know better.

Just shows how much pressure is starting to build in Blaze land....

DICKO - firstly Shane didnt go up to the blaze as back up point guard, i can assure you. So stop saying crap that you really dont know about, your assumption is totally rubbish there.

Isacc - if the guy has a problem with it he should report it to the nbl, knowing this tool who was heckling he probably enjoyed it and doesnt care.

Its banter and banter thats all!

I just tried to find the late show clip of tony martin and mick molloy getting revenge on people that heckled them at their stand up show by going to their work. If any one can find it please insert here.....

tough one, its true Heal probably took it to far by taking the racial line but i wonder if that is the full extent of the conversation, i wonder if Cez is leaving out what happened before this encounter to get so fired up. I find it hard to believe that someone has been around for so long and clearly would know better would take the Racial and Homo line of attack straight out. It just doesn't really make scence to me

nutter i can tell you from first hand experience it is not the first time Heal has used that kind of language to fans and officials.

Why is Heal's use of the term "Asian" considered racial abuse? Isn't it mearly a statement of fact in the correct term used for people of Eastern origin?

Don't get me wrong, it appears to be abuse, I am just not sure how far into the "racial vilifications" realm it goes. There are many more colourful ways he could have abused Cez and his ancestory.

too bad, build a bridge and get over it!

he slammed, got slammed, all good...

DrB - the NBL are contacting him today AFAIK.

Isaac i read the guys thread he is an attention seeking child that really needs to grow up.

How has it come to the NBL attention? Did he go direct?

Personally i think its rubbish, the 'child' should post the footage on you tube.

He is making a lot of it up you can tell, ie reference kids close by then someone shows a pic of the blaze bench and there r no kids there.

Seriously this guy is full of it!

Blue Collar.....

I think it become more a slur when you start using generalisations especially. When you refer to someone as an "Asian" and then demand they get you a Spring Roll definitely corsses the line in my book.

Beside, I don't think he referred to him as an Asian just to identify him. Sounds like there was definitely an intent to demean him in some way.

Dicko - agree that it's about intent.

DrB - Howard from the NBL might've been reading the thread and got in touch, or had it brought to his attention.

The photo included in that thread was from the first half and he noted that the family he thought were near him had moved at some point. The 'kids' are a red herring though. Yes, the individual is a joker and running with his 15 minutes, but I think his initial version of events is credible and what Heal has said crosses a line.

If Smyth can be fined for missing a press conference, Goorjian warned because the Spirit didn't get him from the agreed upon spot, then Heal (at least) should get a public rebuke from the league.

Isaac from what i have heard from my sources - this guy is dribbling crap.

You were close to the Hawks in years past and close to the Blaze now, so I suspect you have some sort of association with Joyce in particular - your source might have some bias, right?

I don't think the individual in question would fabricate racially questionable comments from Heal. The details might be different from account to account (perhaps he baited Heal more than he's outlined), but I'd say that Heal crossed a line.

Hate to bring this up again, but how about Anstey's double middle fingers to the Bullets and their fans at their last ever game? (what a game to fold on!)
Even when Fox Sports interviewed him after the game, he still still made a stack of jibes about what he thought- most of which didn't make it to air- that interview went for a full 10-15 mins or so before they wrapped up, yet the guy just never gets disciplined for anything like he's untouchable.
One set of rules for some and another for others.

DrB- what about that 'Balls of Steel' show?
I get hot under the collar when I see that devil guy carrying on like he's so funny- I bet he'd arc up if someone did that to him when he wasn't in costume and taping a show!

Isaac i wished but no, another source mate.

I can understand but there is two sides to the story and i see this as just a bit of banter that really doesnt require to be investigated. If the guy makes a complaint yes, but from reading his posts on ozhoops he is looking for his 15 minute of fame.

Wasn't suggesting it was a Joyce, specifically, more that it was someone from the Blaze camp?

Look, since starting this topic this morning, I think Cesar's certainly carried on a bit and is only too happy to milk it for a while if he can, but at the heart of it, Heal crossed a line he shouldn't have crossed.

Supposedly he had a go (complete with blatantly offensive language), a while back, at the 36ers courtside announcer for announcing "reject!" after Shane was blocked!

Hammer can take that crap, come on, in the States - students research the road team in crazy depth ... reacting is the worst method of avoiding or stopping the loudmouth (most prob fat hack thats never played more than NBA Live '95 (thats right baby, 95... all pixilated and all)) from gobbing off even more.

the fact that hammer reacted, you would expect a bit more than what has been posted as his comments. Dont know if i can buy that heal was racist infront of public which obviously would have been near this cez cat (althought it was at a spirit game so he could have been rolling solo...)

9999, there is a picture of him at the Spirit game in the OzHo thread and the crowd is so disappointingly empty he almost was rolling solo.

I highly doubt this happend. i think this is a made up story by a delusional individual trying to draw some attention his way

To be honest with you guys, if this version of events is true, Heal should really be suspended permanatley. Some of the things that he is alleged to have said and unthinkable in this day and age.

No doubt this Cesar character baited him, and in IMO probably went a bit too far, but Shane Heal, more than just about anyone in the world, would be used to copping shit from fans. Even so, there is no excuse for his racist tirade, or the homophobic comment he made, nor the use of the c-word.

This IMO is similar to Ron Artest attacking a fan a few years back, and a similar suspension should be appropriate.

quote Drb "DICKO - firstly Shane didnt go up to the blaze as back up point guard, i can assure you. So stop saying crap that you really dont know about, your assumption is totally rubbish there. "


quite the opposite there, i think DICKO is very informed and 99% of what he advises or post turns out correct.. proven track record


racial abuse should not be tolerated by anyone its the lowest for of abuse and should be dealt with as forcefull as possible..

this guy is a liar i was 2 seat behind him and heal said get me a dim sim not the other bullshit chez e carefull you dont end up getting sued you dumb ass

I think Drb is probably right on Heal going up as starting PG. That team couldn't not afford an 8 point player in a back-up role, IMO.

this guy is a liar i was 2 seat behind him and heal said get me a dim sim not the other bullshit chez e carefull you dont end up getting sued you dumb ass

Posted by jimmy yesterday

jimmy...do you not see that this is the bit that's offensive? The swearing is inconsequential. I was also at the game, and spoke to him and his lady straight afterward. His story has not wavered. She backed it up.

YOU STILL THINK IT IS TRUE NOW LEAORD

Yeh, let's all back jimmy, he's got cred.

YOU STILL THINK IT IS TRUE NOW LEAORD

Posted by NBL a few hours ago

You shouting at me??
Yes, I still do think it's true, but then, I don't believe everything I read on nbl.com

People with power and influence have a knack for making unpleasant things go away...