Where is that from, Isaac ? I haven't seen that.

Camel - added the article link in to the original post.

Wow...Boti is out for blood.

What's Willie up to these days? we've got enough defense to cover his lack of it these days =D

Tyndale is certainly part of the problem.Yet we were told this is a talented team and defence was going to be a priority so far it the worst we have ever had even the stats show that.
Who is responsible for that not just Tyndale?

'On any curl cut, he  and Brad Hill for that matter  chase their opponent around, find themselves behind and are so easily scored on as to be embarrassing.'

Careful Boti, this is a legitimate way of defending a curl cut with help from the post 'd'. Going over the top and allowing the flare giving up wide open jumpers is a worse option. As far as you know they were instructed to do this so I would be hesitant to start making comments on the x's and o's of the game.

1233, he might be referencing how far they fall behind chasing the player? Not sure.

Had Ballinger and Maher played on Saturday, I think that would've been a narrow win. Can't see us falling behind that much early and then not being able to finish them off in the fourth after the big third quarter.

Perhaps Isaac but you can look at it the other way also, in that after Perth got a 20 point lead at half time they pretty much switched off. As shown in that 3rd quarter when we outscored them quite considerably. So while we had a really good come back it is hard to put it into context.

We got some really good positives out of that game so I think the team is going forward and the wins will come shortly.

Sure, Boti is critical of Tyndale, but the article is more critical of the 36ers front office. I am surprised that Boti has come out so early in the season to criticise people 'not on the floor'.

When you consider the fitness issues of Brett Maher and Davidson that Scotty has been quite open about, and Boti's previous article available on that same linky, 'Sixers hope for Kendell go West' and the parallels that Boti is also making with the Chappell situation, Boti is treading a very gutsy fine line, he is almost biting the hand that feeds.

Must say I agree with Boti on this. Tyndale looks lost on the court and seems frightned to take the initiative. However the sixers still don't seem to have many offensive plays options.I was also expecting to see a few more three point shots taken on Sat. particularly in the 4th and especially with Perth shooting them one after another, our offensive answer was to drive in for a two. Our other option was to get it into Schensh and if we could'nt do that (due to him being mugged under the basket) we didn't seem to have another option.
Also seemed like no one wanted to be the one to take a shot.
But Tyndale doesn't seem to realise he's supposed to be the big money player

Whilst I agree and have from 1st game that Tyndale had limited skills for a import I was amazed that Boti wrote such a strong article after only 6-7 games
about Tyndale when he took so long to suggesting Chappell get cut. I agree with the points eavri and others made and surely would only be a financial issue that Sixers would not make decision straight away. Also sometimes hard to admit made a mistake.
Even if replaced as he was a cheap import you would have to analyze his replacement would be of same value

Why would Boti need to be diplomatic, when this season is shadowing our worst? Big difference though, is that we've only been down 1 import, for 1 game (through Gastro). Too subtle?
Boti brought up the point of an inexperienced front to office, well it's a carry-over from last year. Too subtle?
Boti biting the hand that feeds him? It's called survival. Boti derives an income from reporting local NBL games. Too subtle?
Our Head Coach kind of stick up for Tinnie, by saying he's no orphan in being below standard. I don't know about you, but that sort of stuff, doesn't make my day.
I know of a few horrendous decisions that have been made by "the inexperienced front office" (too subtle?), but I'll keep a zip on it, for the betterment of the club.

Before anyone thinks that I'm being a tool, & cry'n over "not being required" this year (as a volunteer), I'll 'fess that I'm home, working on my 3rd beer, & having the last laugh.
Too subtle? ; )

DDFan, your pointed subtleness, overbearing sarcasm, inability to see that not every post is made intentionally to annoy you, double posting and general paranoia never fails to annoy, but that may just be me.

As for whether Boti is biting the hand that feeds, surely it is the other way around. Boti is really the Sixer's only consistent and wide reaching source of information and promotion. It would really be the Sixers biting the hand that feeds it were it to get on the wrong side of Boti.

I don't doubt that the Sixers would be very concerned to head off any negative press from Boti, as he is the person that many casual fans read to see how the team is going. When Hodge joins the team mid last season, who brings in the additional 2,000 people? That would not all be word of mouth, much of it would be from people reading Boti's enthusiastic reports and deciding to go to the game. But there has to be something exciting for Boti to write about.

DDFan, no need for you to reply, I was kinda agreeing with you.

I double post, because there's no way on this site to edit/add to, a post. My bad. ; )
I don't wish to annoy, I welcome criticism, but would prefer if it was informed, & assure evryone, that I want the best for our team.
Thanks for your support.

i was all for giving Tyndale a go but after saturdays game i felt he looked like he didn't even want to be out there. He doesn't seem to be able to cope with the whole system, many times looking lost and confused. While i believe he could become a good player we haven't got the time to let him develop and need someone like Hodge who will draw a crowd so we go into next season in a strong position to retain a team in the new system.

I kinda agree with getting rid of Tyndale, BUT at the same time, isnt it the WHOLE team thats not performing. Is there some underlying problem at the club right now thats unsettling the players, not just Tyndale, but Maher, Bruce, Davidson...all playing below par. Brad Hill is playing as shit as ever but who expected anything else.

I just think its odd that after 2 good games, and showing alot of promise a player can drop so badly, specially when the entire teams performance has dropped. Would hate to loose Tyndale to find out it wasnt him afterall.

That was Scott Ninnis on fiveaa just then.
Hodge wants $800,000 he said.
Maybe Boti will fire up Tyndale.. I think Cornsey said that.. Quiet shy polite guy..

( No Maher on Sunday calf injury )

I'm surprised at the number of people calling out Boti here. Look at the stats - Tinnie is averaging around 15ppg as an import - that simply doesn't cut it.

We took a risk bringing in a guy fresh out of college, and it hasn't paid off.

Some people might think that 15ppg is acceptable and that we have other scoring options. I'm not so sure ... Ballinger 20ppg, yes. Schenscher 15-20ppg, yes. But who else? Jacob's been over-performing so far, yet that hasn't made up for the poor performances from Tinnie, Bruce and Brett of late. We're averaging 96ppg as a supposedly offensive-minded ballclub, and conceding 104 ppg. Those extra 5ppg from our 2nd import, along with increased productivity from other sources, would be very valuable.

Now, of course, I'm not suggesting that they go out tomorrow and tell Tinnie to get stuffed, but as a paying member, I would expect them to be exploring possible options, including having serious discussions with Hodge. Anything less is irresponsible - which I think is the whole point that Boti is trying to make.

Bretts the man, with Chappell there was a question about his recovery from injury that gave him some lenience. It's not quite the same situation with Tyndale - he played 40 minutes on Saturday night.

If Tyndale is a bust, who takes responsible for recruiting him in the first place?

Scotty seems to still be well, we got Bruce and Tyndale for Hodge . While his form is not good all he can do is work hard on it.. but he's no Hodge, /..
and we got Bruce.. ( not his actual words, but something like that) And, the owner would have to pay Hodge the salary cap, and the rest of the team, play for free.. was his comment also.

Fair point Scott recruited these guys so he has to take some responsibility most of it unless the management let him down.

Camel - exactly. It was clear from the start that it was a choice of import or Bruce plus cheaper import. With Maher set to retire, I think the latter decision was the correct one. It just isn't looking quite its best given that both players are not at the top of their games right now.

Tyndale is averaging 14.4/7.0/4.4, and Bruce 13.7/2.5/4.8. Given that both have room to improve on those stats, maybe it's a matter of expectations, or the wrong cheap import?

If we had a single SG import instead of those two, right now we'd be forced to start Davidson and run Kersten for a bunch of minutes. And if we had Dusty, I have no idea what we'd be forced to start on Sunday without Maher or Winitana - probably Hill with Burdon backing him up?

Yes. So Bruce plus a reasonable import forward seemed good, didn't it. What I can't understand is how good Bruce was early games, and Tyndale 30points in his second game.. now they both are terrible.

I don't know why Hodge would bother with asking for $800K when surely he knows that it is the extent of the salary cap. What does he expect? That he will be the only paid player in the team? If that is his asking price, then obviously bargaining with him is a waste of valuable time, time that is quickly ticking away towards the end of the season. I just get so angry at reading things like that because its either untrue or grossly ridiculous. The only good that will come out of it is if Melbourne get him. Then surely there is an argument of adhering to the salary cap when its known what Hodge's asking price was.

It seems it comes back to the offence or their lack of offence. Bruce didn't seem right to me on Saturday night and my guess is he was crook. He kept going to the changeroom everytime he got subbed out and was drinking Poweraide from a bottle which to me suggests he was sick.
Things haven't gone all our way so far, but I still think we have the potential to be a great team with what we got. Right now it's a confidence thing. With the shit draw to start 2 games at home and then 4 on the road, we were always going to be succeptable to lose a few early. My guess is when they lost that first road game to a team they beat only days before it put a big dent in the confidence and since then the next 3 loses has compunded this.
They need a win to get them back on the roght path and you will see with time that they will "gel" (insert Phil) together. My call is a late surge to mthe finals but unfortunately lose in the semi or prelim...to New Zealand.

Panther didn't you bag Phil when he said the gel word and they had a worse draw than this season maybe we are seeing what really is going on.Boti touched on it today

EC, right now AU$800k is around US$500k. Not long ago when the rates were closer, AU$500k wouldn't have been absolutely ridiculous for a team like Melbourne or Brisbane to consider. I'd say there are and have been players getting around $400k.

He's not going to care about the cap or expect a job here. If teams are making an enquiry and his agent is stating a price, where's the drama?

Isaac, how much is unemployment benefit in USA?

"Panther didn't you bag Phil when he said the gel word and they had a worse draw than this season maybe we are seeing what really is going on.Boti touched on it today"
Could of, but don't remember doing so. Would you not agree in saying though that this team has a lot more potential than last year's?
Considering most of these guys are going around again together (bar Maher) it would be wiser to give them more opportunity to come together as a team.
Have a look at Melbourne, they have supposedly the best team ever and they have lost 3 games already.

A lot of people are forgetting he was injured (eye) for almost an entire game in round 2. If you take that game out of his numbers he is averaging 15.5/7.8/5.2. Pretty respectible numbers, especially considering his D has been as good as anyone else's on the team imo. Get Maher, Bruce and Balls back to fitness and that's just about all we need from Tyndale.


As someone has already said, Tyndale is terrible at creating his shot. He relies on a good PG to feed him the ball on cuts and fast breaks to score. (which probably then helps his confidence levels resulting in more rbs/asts himself)

Looking at the stats, there is a clear correlation between Bruce's assists and Tyndale's points. Ever since Bruce has been struggling with injury/form Tyndale has been struggling to score.

Round 1: Bruce-10ast Tyndale-16pts
2: Bruce-8ast Tyndale-30pts
4: Bruce-3ast Tyndale-9pts
5: Bruce-0ast Tyndale-18pts
6: Bruce-1ast Tyndale-10pts

Obviously it is not ideal having an import who relies so heavily on others but maybe we will see his productivity increase once Brucie returns to form.


If not... Isaac, what's Josh Pace up to these days?

Dont think I thought Boti was wrong I applaud him for doing it and good to see him writing some good articles again and leaving the comedy for comedians.
Hope he looks with some insight in his around the NBL this week on what is a really tight NBL.
With Tyndale the key issue is not only the points he is not getting. He has no defence and he doesnt know what to do but wave the ball around confusing only himself and his team mates. what good imports do in a new team create space drop the shot or pass off or drive hard at the basket. A 6ft 3 guard -fwd has to be able to shoot at the least a open shot.
Forget Hodge moved on time for us to move on and we cant afford to pay out a plyr and pay big money for another. Good point xstatic where is Josh Pace as he was able to put up big points in a similar Comp. I was hoping he might have been our import this year

I'd guess the "asking price", may be what he's been offered *** coughs *** elsewhere. Negotiations go through managers, & they play interested teams again each other, to max their own cut.

The other thing is as Isaac mentioned, imports negotiate in $US, which at this moment, kills our $AU.

I have to say, I saw what appeared to be disinterest from Tinnie, but there may be issues that we aren't privvy to, nor should be.

As for our draw, Perth would've snapped it up in heartbeat, given a chance. No excuses there.

Isaac makes another valid point with Mike's injury status last season, in that there was no set date for his full recovery, making it difficult to act on a replacement. Anyway, I know where I'd be pointing the finger for the embarrassing situation, but most of you guys've got your minds set on the scapegoat. Happy to discuss, outside of any forum.

#209090 I ruled out Europe because he said he did not want to play in Europe. The way I look at it is he failed in the NBA, he won't go to Europe, he won't accept less than $800K here, so what's left?

umm it's called D-League.

If the money is in Europe, he'll play there I'm sure.

Isaac, how much is unemployment benefit in USA?

I still think a Bruce, Tyndale, Holmes, Ballinger and Luke starting 5 could match it with anyone WHEN FULLY FIT.

The only prob would be teams collapsing into the paint due to our lack of outside threats.

The upside is that we look to have good size at the defensive end along with a good rebounding outfit.

The half court offence would have some good options with a Bruce Ballinger pick n pop and obviously Luke is starting to assert himself on that end also.

The main issue is that our best player has a bad back which will always limit our chances of becoming an elite team.