28 teams, nowhere to stay!!

hosting a nationals is more than courts

not when its the only stadium with enough courts other than MV. they will probly put a temp stand up on court 2. therefore only being able to use three courts.

Now if it was at wayville of pas, only two courts could be used.

Wasn't there a similar thread a couple of months ago?

Starplex has the best courts in the State and there are four in a row. Starplex is just 30 mins from the CBD, hardly the "middle of nowhere".

Why,
If Starplex is so offensive to you, where would you like the see this held?

(I suppose another post will give people another opportunity to vent their prejudices and their sheltered Adelaide attitudes.)

Wayville has hosted nationals before (U-16's in 2003 i think? and U-18's in 2006?), so it can't be 'because of the courts'.

seems to becoming a regular thing now!!!!so that should tell you something. Well run,superior venue and .....need I say more.

Will, with any luck, be looking for accommodation for the week (ideally a house or unit). If anybody has any leads or inside Adelaide info, I'd appreciate the help. Thanks.

Totally agree. Adelaide has stuff-all suburban stadiums, and some embarrassing buildings that wouldn't be in use in Melbourne or Sydney get constant use. Some of that $100 million for AAMI (another useless venue) would be better diverted to community sports facilities.

Wayville would have been a much better choice, due to location. The U16 & U18 championships held there in recent years have been good, whats the problem now???

Starplex really isn't THAT far, you'd swear Nationals were being held in Renmark with the stink some are kicking up.

The choice of Gawler is poor.
No-one is going to go - which is probably just as well as there is not enough spectator room. Though the organisers are making sure of it by charging a RIDICULOUS entry fee - $15 to see U14 girls?

Two courts at Wayville, one at Pasadena (similar to the Ballarat setup) is by far the best way to go. The atmosphere at Wayville at the 18s there a few years ago was superb - yup, they need a third court, but Pasadena is 5 minutes up the road.

I have forgotten more than they know about basketball

FFS is it Adelaide as a state hosting the championships or is it Gawler being so far out or is the real reason that Centrals are the host club and clubs like Forestville and Sturt have missed the fuck out.
FFS this anti central propaganda sucks some of you douchebags need to grow up.

Smash, no one mentioned Centrals you Douche, they are discussing the pros and cons of the stadium.

Because they have nothing to bag central about in this instance so they do through the cons of being so far away from anywhere. If Starplex was anywhere else, it wouldn't be an issue but because it centrals....problem alert we must fine one.

3 out of the 5 people who decide where the Tournament is played are from North, Centrals and Woodville.

Absolute nepotism.

Starplex is used because of not just the bball venue but also the services available on site eg. Physio, Pool, Surgery and changerooms

These are dumb reasons to select a venue to host a national championship bar changeroom availability (plus court numbers and quality). A lot of the teams - Vic, NSW, I think even SA Metro last year - take their own physio. Nearly every team ensures their accomodation has a pool for recovery. Changerooms? Rubbish - they don't have enough of them (or at least didn't at 14 boys a few years ago). It should be about exposing as many people as possible to the event - and this will NOT happen at Gawler. It should be held in a venue near town - whether that be the Dome, Wayville, Pasadena or (most likley as the need for 3 courts and 4-6 changerooms) a combination of them.

I have an idea why dont you ask the Eagles who lost the tender process, thats right you tender for the event and someone alittle higher up than 3 people at North decide where to hold the event.

Let me run you through what may have helped the tender and trust me courts are definately the start.

Car parking, for buses etc.
Catering for spectators
Room for referee debriefs
video facilities for coaches.
enough courts to allow teams to practice and play
decent enough facility to hold opening and closing ceremony. eg Starplex Aud.
GYM
Pools for recovery, no need to book a hotel with a pool if one is in the complex.
lighting
enough change rooms

all of this is promoted in the tender pitch, I think you will find the Centrals, Woodville and North bid was better than the others coming from this state. end of story.

get used to these events heading north of Adelaide someone at Basketball Australia must also like the quality venue.

OK, let's go! Let's see of these criteria which is better out of Starplex or Wayville/Pasadena.

Car parking, for buses etc.
Both very adequate

Catering for spectators
Again both very adequate

Room for referee debriefs
Starplex, I guess!

video facilities for coaches.
I think you mean video areas, both OK

enough courts to allow teams to practice and play
Wayville/Pasadena by a mile. This is one of the problems with the Starplex for an 18's that doesn't come up with a 14's

decent enough facility to hold opening and closing ceremony.
Starplex but Wayville is fine.

Pools for recovery, no need to book a hotel with a pool if one is in the complex.
Recovery is done at team accomodation not at the stadium. So Wayville gets this one as the total lack of quality accomodation near the Starplex ensures that people are struggling to find enough beds.


lighting
Starplex

enough change rooms
Wayville

Now add 2 big ones
Accomodation for teams
Wayville by an absolute city mile

Spectator numbers
Wayville. A central venue ensures everyone across Adelaide will be able to attend. The Starplex cuts down the likely number of spectators by a half.

Wayville/Pasadena wins hands down!

Firefox, the decision was made by the South Australian Basketball Commission and NOT the Competitions Committee.
The Commission's recommendation then had to go to Basketball Australia.
Before you make any accusations about nepotism, may I suggest you check your facts.

Get over it you soft cocks - fantastic venue for a championship. Wayville is for girls. Pasadena too small. Only downside is hopefully your car is still there after the game in the car park. Best venue in Adelaide as a complex goes. Blame your state government and the clowns that built the dome.

ok Frog 45... how about we try again with out being bias!

Car Parking: Starplex by a mile (where the hell are you going to park a bus at pas?)

Catering: Starplex by a mile, neither of the other stadiums have any more than a small canteen let alone a discounted price for real meals.

Rooms for reffs: Starplex, although you could probably use the bar at wayville and pas for that... we will call that even.

Video facilities again we will call a tie

Courts: for games obviously starplex, although the wo courts and pas that would be unusable for games would be good for practise. But also having only one court used for games in an entire stadium would leave it with NO atmosphere and would be just plain dumb. So im giving this to starplex, although i can see arguments for both.

facilities ceremonies: even

Recovery facilities: Starplex hands down... saying that reconery is done at the teams hotels is baised on teams not having access to any of those facilities any where else. Having them at the complex is ideal and gives the teams more options for accomidation.

Lighting: Starplex

Change rooms: Wayville/Pas

Accomidation: well yes wayville, but tbh I dont see it as a issue at starplex because with one game a day by driving 25/30mins you can have access to the cities accommidation.

Spectators: well wayville

starplex wins hands down

nutter,

1/ You can cordon of the dirt area for buses only at Pas.

2/ You bring in catering. Just like Forestville have done for previous championships.

3/ Where exactly are teams going to train at Gawler? The starplex facility will not be able to have any trainings as it will be in use for games from 9am to 9pm every day.

4/ No team will do recovery at Starplex. You need to have you meals, evalution and recovery based around games and training times and include sleep. Not to mention that you will be traveling to and from accomodation due to there being no accomodatin close to the Starplex stadium. = Not relevent.

Don't see anywhere that it say's about Forestville/Sturt.

It's about Starplex not being as suitable as Wayville/Pasadena to run the championship.

Mainly due to no accomodation and a lack of availablility to spectators due to it being 1 hour away from a large proportion of the people who will come to watch. Then having a $15 per day entry fee. And no training facilities for teams.

seriously wayville great spot for dog shows i believe

Wayville stadium needs to have air conditioning to be to the same standard as Starplex.

Starplex also has a large quiet and separate theatre/auditorium which is good for ceremonies, presentations etc. This has big screen video and sound system and can also be opened up next to court 4 if necessary.

Good feedback from participants at previous Australian U14 girls and around 3 years ago the U14 boys championships run by the same 3 clubs at the venue would also have been taken into consideration.

Starplex also has a large quiet and separate theatre/auditorium which is good for ceremonies, presentations etc. This has big screen video and sound system and can also be opened up next to court 4 if necessary.

Good feedback from participants at previous Australian U14 girls and around 3 years ago the U14 boys championships run by the same 3 clubs at the venue would also have been taken into consideration.