FWIW - I disagree with Norwood over Eastern in U12 boys state, I think North > Southern in U14 boys state and Forestvile to make to 4 in U18 reserves (beat North by 20 on Friday & will be in a pool with them & Sturt).

Apart from that, probably about right. Limestone the wildcard in younger reserves grades.

that team is head and shoulders above the next best, IMO. I saw them dis-member sturt by double digit's (and that sturt team is the 2nd best team in that comp).

Not sure if they were at full strength or not - but Norwood and Eastern are clearly the best two teams in that age group currently. The results indicate they are both double digits better than any other teams.

Between Norwood and Eastern though is a coin flip for mine. Both very talented - I'd probably give the slight edge to Eastern if I had to pick one.

I'd put my money on the Panthers to win the under 20's Men!

I'd take action on that Panther. Hell, I'd even give you odds.

Toot

Don,t get too comfy with norwood , eastern in 16 boys, we played blues at eltham and having seen them whilst in adelaide in nov 07 and seen them at dandy tourny they were chalk and cheese. If they play at that cheese level as they were over here you may be surprised. Having said that though I know that one of the kids who played country is out for 3 months with a busted finger.

forestville for girls state - not sturt and norwood as a smoky for a trophy - do underestimate norwood's strength

Under 14 Girls

Southern will challenge for top 3 spot.

Beat North two weeks ago and matched Sturt on Friday for 3 quarters until better players were fouled out.

This should be a very even States.

norwood for girls reserves for sure

Get on board, you are dreaming. Southern beat North after they came back from Melbourne and like many teams that went over there were very flat the following week. Perhaps teach your players to play Defence and then your 'better' players won't foul out. How typical of Southern, talking it up before anything has been proven. Wasn't the margin 30 points? that is a huge last quarter to Sturt?

Anyone got the seedings?

Is it 1,3,6 and 2,4,5

AFAIK it's:

A - 1, 3, 6, 8, 9, 11
B - 2, 4, 5, 7, 10, 12

This *should* produce 1 v 4 & 2 v 3 semis (or at least provides the opportunity for it).

One thing that needs to be fixed is that in 9 & 11 team comps, the #1 seeded team ends up having to play an extra game over the #2 seed, which, IMO, should be fixed, so the lowest seed is always in pool B.

A - 1, 3, 6, 8, 9, 11
B - 2, 4, 5, 7, 10, 12

is that taken from when ?

pre summer finals ie after last minor round?

after summer finals?

or christmas?

It's taken after 1 full round of summer season(IE - after everyone has played one another once).

For div 1 comps, that's usually round 9 (IE - the Xmas break). For div 2 comps, that's usually round 11 (IE - final season table).

So if you're keen to know your state champs pool, write it down now, before the summer season ladders get wiped from Sportingpulse in a few weeks.

What odds are you offering Hoop Addict??? Do you want to make the bet now or after the summer finals???

I'm happy to do it now.

3/1. I'll put up $75 which I'll pay if South Adelaide win, you put up $25, which you'll pay if anyone else wins.

I've seen you at the casino enough to know you like to gamble. :).

Your Dreaming.

Is that you Jason?

Done i'll take that bet, fantastic odds and it's definitely better than the two to one the casino give me on roulette tables!!!

Done & done. Good luck.

I dont know how they work these rankings .

Is it what pool they are in ?in Div 2 if you finish 5th where do you sit in the rankings?

Hows this fopr an ineteresting tid bit:
The last two clubs that won under 12 boys in the Victorian Junior Championships in Werribee (2006) and Bulleen (2007) have not yet qualified for the Victorian Championships that start next week at this age group. In fact one of the past two champions will miss out as they play off against each for one of the final places! That's huge!

What's the opposite of interesting ?
oh, the post above ...

I don't quite know what you're asking me3, but if you're 5th at the time they take the seedings (in div 2, usually the final regular season standings for summer) then I believe you will be in a pool with seeds 2, 4, 7, 10, 12. So whoever was in those position at the time the seedings get taken, they will be in your pool.

Melvin, that is actually quite an interesting & surprising fact for some.

Girls 16 1's, Forestville finishing 4th?

After those girls won the winter & summer comps I think your dreaming!

Eagles top 1 or 2 at the very least in this age group.

Fat Chance,
You've won the winter comp already?
Wow - I guess we'd better spread the word to the other teams not to bother to show up for round 1 tonight!

I think the Metro kids do put in the hard yards, I have seen country kids walk into clubs and everyone else gets pushed down. The country kids expect to play Div 1 and stuff everyone ese, they think they are special, they are not, most of them are "Fly by niters" and they will eventually choose footy over basketball. How about the country kids put in the hard yards and start at Div 2 and prove themselves to everyone else first.

And they don't have to prove themselves to everyone - just the coach!

Perhaps - lo and behold.,.can I actually say it - the coach's perspective is a tainted one...I get the feeling that there is a competition going on between some of the clubs about who can get the most country kids in their Div 1 sides and it is nothing but chest beating between clubs and Coaches and if you think my view is tainted... it comes up all the time as a grievance on Hoops....

Ha! By "tainted" I assume you mean "The coach can't see that my kid is the best basketballer ever".

But you're right - every coach I know places more importance on "How many country players do I have" over "How can I give this team the best chance to win".... Pfft.

For the record and to answer your statement - I do not look at my kids thru rose coloured glasses. I do not have any kids in Div 1 and am not likely to for some time, if ever, my kids play because they love the game, plain and simple.

I do however see what goes on and I am disappointed for the kids that it affects within our Club and others.

If you are disappointed in your club, then you are allowed to move. Please do so.

SS - Great advice - lets not deal with the issues - lets just move on and hope that no-one else notices the real issues and if they do they say nothing. Like tin soldiers with no brains. The reason for this forum is to debate, to air issues, to agree to disagree, but always there is classic advice from people like to you to move on or stop having a sook or whatever the case may be. Problem is this issue is not limited to one Club, the problem does need addressing whether that be by BSA or Club Committees because the bad feeling will continue.

If you don't like the phone service you are getting, switch carriers. If you don't like the food you are being served, frequent a different resturant. If you don't like the car you drive, sell it and buy a different one. Or feel free to go to all these service providers and ask them to change their service method and see how far you get. If you don't like the service your club is providing, move clubs, but don't expect clubs to change their delivery methods because it doesn't suit your personal preferance. If you want change this forum is not going to provide it in any shape or form.

So get on your club committee and limit the number of country players in your club, or move to a club that doesn't have country kids. BSA have no control over it and neither they should, if you stop kids from playing it would become a national outcry.

IMHO an adult who has a go at kids playing a sport because of geographical location, without having the guts to put their name to it is nothing but a weak sook. That is my opinion.

If you really want to debate, have the guts to put your name to it, or go to your club and ask them to change and have the balls to move if they don't want to listen.

The one thing we all have to remember in this debate is that if there really was a better kid, be them metro or coutry, dont you think the coach would pick them?

It no good a coach stacking his team with country kids, only to see the team get spanked every time they hit the court.

You stack your team with the best cattle around.

If that happens to be a mix of country and metro, so be it.

The team my child plays in has almost as many country kids as metro kids.

The cold hard fact is I cant name one kid from div 2 that would come close to replacing any of the div 1 kids, country or metro.

Another point; how the hell can you restrict teams from playing more than 2 country kids?

People this is Australia 2008, not Moscow 1968!

Every kid in SA should have the opportunity of making a div 1 team.

It's all over already?(#175543)Dosnt your brain have the capacity to go back to the last winter season.

Try a little oil in your ear; the cogs just might start turning.

Looking to far ahead, without remembering to look behind you eh!

After those girls won the winter & summer comps I think your dreaming

Those girls didn't win the winter comp - a different team did. Some members may still be there, but about half of that team are now playing U18s, as are most of the players they played against. So whilst I remember it, I don't see it's relevance for this years state champs other than for blatant woofing purposes.

Ahhh Forestville, gotta love the arrogance.

Not as arrogant as Sturt though! Funny did not see the Stats who would win State Champs after the GF results. Did I miss them?

(#176160)Sorry, silly me.

So having half of the "winter season squad" from the season before winning this years summer season GF obviously does not count.

Yeah..... nice try!

west in under 16's have dropped completely since losing one of there two best players to footy.

Under/16 Boy's State

Eastern
Norwood
South
Sturt
Forestville
Southern
North
Centrals
West
Woodville

*Bumping*

re: Junior State Champs (#173084 | Grrr!)
Done i'll take that bet, fantastic odds and it's definitely better than the two to one the casino give me on roulette tables!!!


Good luck JB!

Mr zzz

South lost to West last night.

Need to rework your predictions.

Gee where's Southern Cuzin he was pumping the South boys up,when they were playing the bottom teams. The top 3 are even injuries might make the difference.At least the comp looks pretty even, good luck to all.

are you dyslexic I wrote pumping if you were aksing

"Bumping" (in Hoop Addict's post, Legend, not from yours) is basically forum-talk for "replying to a topic so that it goes back to the top of the Latest Action list and gets new attention".

In U16 Boys; Norwood, Sturt and Eastern should have their own comp as nobody has got anywhere near them over the last few years.

How about you stop your bloody sooking and get your club to work harder!! boo hoo

14 girls Forestville beat sturt
14 boys sturt beat southern

16 boys Norwood beat sturt
16 girls Sturt beat norwood

18 boys Sturt beat west

these are all state results of the grand finals