Time for Williams to give up. Nice guy but I think NBL is not for him. Injuries and incosisitant form would mean it is his last season.

Travis Lane or Damon Lowery anyone?

Think it is time the sixers gave someone else a chance and moved Williams on...

Be careful, Williams is a protected species on this forum....

He's not a protected species, I only asked that people discuss the matter in a reasonable manner. I even asked that you be a little bit kind to Panther once but he's not a protected species.

The only other ABL guard that is similar to Williams in size would be Pochintesta who was injured at the time of selection. Otherwise I thought that he could be a decent alternative.

A number of players were trialled prior to Williams' selection and not chosen in his place (Puddifoot, Gerlach, Campbell I think). Obviously the coaches have their reasons.

Jason's scoring impact is insignificant this season and certainly hasn't improved, but I think his assists have risen. For players in over 10 games this year, he's #1 in the NBL in assists per 48 minutes (8.9 AP48, ahead of McDonald, Kendall, Quick, Mee, and Maher). He doesn't make the top 50 turnovers per 48 minutes, which suggests that besides his shooting, he's done alright in limited opportunities playing PG. I wouldn't be surprised if the coaches were satisfied with the impact he's had in the time given.

That said, I of course agree that Adelaide needs to be blooding someone in the event that Maher leaves for Europe in the same way that Sydney has Martin, West Sydney has Markovic, and Townsville has Robertson and Quick. I'm just not sure if the current ABL ranks have that person.

Who are the frontrunners and what are their advantages and disadvantages? Clarke from Southern, Campbell from Forestville, who else?

Does SA have any PGs at AIS?

Brad Hill is more of a SG, right?

Get Newley! Why we let him go I don't know.

Yes indeed get Newley here!!

Newley, Jake and Oscar make a great nucleus to build the future around

Isaac - Ryan 'Pini' Kersten is an SA PG at the AIS. He's about 6'0" but has bulked up considerably in his time at the 'tute.

He was a pretty dominant junior and is a solid leader.

Hopefully he'll be able to compete at NBL level in the near future.

Yes - Brad Hill is more an SG than PG.

Newley looks like a nerd. The Crocs can keep the nerd.

The problem is that when Williams plays for Sturt he almost gets a triple double every game and he is very difficult to guard. So even if he was dropped from the Sixers, he would have a great year in the ABL, and someone would get on here and say Williams shouldn't have been dropped!!!
I think the only thing stopping him is his mental state of mind, because in the ABL he can flat out play.

When I say he is a protected species I meant that he has a lot of supporters on this forum, not meaning the people running the forum are protecting him.

Kind to Panther? What the???

Williams can play so don't get me wrong on my statement. He just struggles to make the step to the next level. How many years has he struggled to make this step?? Issac is right that does the ABL currently have a player that should take Williams spot. Who know unless they get given a chance.

I think that Illman would've proven himself at training before being given a spot, so it might be that scrimmages with the team are the "chance". A decent amount of ABL talent has been given that run, right?

Gerlach is in there now. Is he a point guard? I always got the impression from ABL games that he was more of a 2/3-type player?

He's a point. Plays the 2 with Southern because Clarke runs the point but Snake can run the point if that's whats asked of him. More importantly, he can defend the opponents point. If The Sixers need, they could still have a number of people bring the ball up, but what Snake brings is full-court pressure defense.

I have never been a fan of Gerlach's game but I have to agree with Deak. Gerlach can play the point if asked and can guard anyone from the 1 and 2 position. I think, whilst Jase is a great guy his time is very limited and therefore the sixers should be taking steps to get gerlach to start to take a step into the NBL

MW,

Criticise Williams all ya want
just be CONSTRUCTIVE

There is some well thought out intellegent and constructive criticism of Williams on this thread, learn from it!

It is a great concern the apparent lack of guards within the SA ranks.

Williams down, Maher playing injured.

If Mahers injury gets too much, or inflamed tomorrow night in NZ, where does that leave us on Sunday?

"Welcome your starting 5.....Paul Rees, Dusty Rychart, Jacob Holmes, Willie Farley and Darren Ng"

Who does that leave on the bench to give Will or Ninja a breather? No-one. Serious problems indeed. Place Williams in waivers for the remainder of the season, get in Travis Lane, who knows what he is doing now...he certainly was looking good last season.

we don't have to place williams on Waivers cant we just use Nash's spot to get a versatile replacement ? Or am I missing something. Nash is definitely gone Williams could recover to be a useful back up.

Why don't you think Hambour will do a good job?

Well, considering Williams hasnt been a useful back up for the last 2 years, why would he suddenly start becoming one?

If we place Williams on waivers as well, it would not only free up Nash's salary, but also Williams which might give the 6ers a bit more leverage to get a decent bench guard for the remainder of the season.

J Will plays to his limits. He knows he isn't going to score 20 a game and get 10 dimes.

He runs the offence well enough and hustles on defence. He was never a star in the making guys BUT he is a solid back up who can give Brett or Willie a breather.

I say let him run the offence and if he misses a 3 or has a turnover encourage him don't harp on him.

He isnt a solid back up though. His minutes have even been dropping in the last few games he has played.

The offence actually dries up with him on court, and they normally ewnd up using Jacob to set up the offense when Williams is on.

He may still be an effective ABL player, but he just seems to be out of his depth in NBL. Let some of the kids (Gerlach etc) have a try.

Is it an outrageous idea to throw Hambour a few minutes at the 2? He's clearly too short to be an NBL centre but he's definitely got some guard-like skills. In year 9 he was the best guard going round year 9 school basketball, then he grew and by year 11 he had become BIG and was always played as a big man down low. He burst onto the district scene as a big in under 20s so everyone assumes he'd always played as a big, but I think if he changed his focus he could offer something in the backcourt.

There is no way Hambour could be a 2 man.

1. He doesn't have a left hand (would like to see him try to dribble against the likes of Mee or Saville)
2. He can't shoot from outside the key.

He is in the team to bang some bodies and get rebounds. Billo, he may have been good in year 9, but cmon, this is the premier league in Australia, when some of the players were in year 9 they were the best in the country, let alone in their local SASSSA.

what bout Reggie Vanderbergh

Can't shoot outside the key or doesn't shoot outside the key? Obviously his game has been developed over the last 3 or 4 years to make him into a big man, and if his coaches have been drilling into him that his role is to stay inside the paint and not to take it outside then that's what he's been doing. He's always listened to coaches which is probably why he's playing NBL (not much but playing none the less) today. Obviously the guy's no ninja from outside, all I'm saying is that he may have a few more strings in his bow than most people realise.

In being constructive, I have a named a short list of replacements for Jase at NBL level. They would all do a similar job out on the floor.

A tin of paint
A blade of grass
An old metal zipper
A bright new blue button
A safety pin
An empty icecream container
Scraping of shower mould
An A4 piece of paper (no smaller)
A dog's collar

Sorry Jase - you get the idea.

Thats harsh i hope you one day have the guts to tell him to his face

Mr Assist,

That could be the dumbest thing I've ever read on this forum - and that's saying a lot.

To Anonymous (aka Funny f@#%)

Hambour might as well only have one hand because he certainly doens't use his left to make any attacking moves.

In saying that I actually have met a young fella back in the day who only had one hand (he was about 6) and he was the best one handed dribbler I have ever seen. He was pulling moves Hambour would certainly struggle with.

Thats awesome Mr Assist, could not agree more.