Yeh i see where your coming from Ice Smyth had all those guys getting open shots and missing.Yep lets get Chappelle back in cos he was playing so great lighting it up.In 6 minutes in the 2nd quarter they out score us by 10 points all other quarters its close so the defence was no good check there score in the last game looks like the defence slowed them up but there shooting was terrible.Guess Heal and Mcleod are also gone there below us so they are clearly worse and what about Black gone they are stacked this year going no good get rid of him as well.Sutton on to carry the ball hoping Brad and Darren would get going from outside thats why Sutton was in to allow Davidson to get some easy shots.Nobody shot well but sack Smyth then they will all shoot better.Melbourne didnt shoot well either gave up more points lost by more why arent we asking for Westovers head or saying he has lost the plot.You guys are unreal.

Westover is 9-3 and a lot closer to the top of the ladder. He also took his side to the finals last year. Remember? That X vs Y vs Z comparison is straight out of pre-school.

Ice, I agree that you want your best out there when trying to win. If Chappell isn't one of those best, then something's wrong and we are only making it harder for ourselves. Forget Smyth and Dench, that import spot is the easiest and best bang-for-buck change they can make. Just my opinion.

Has everyone forgotten that Maher was missing. Don't you think they would have got another 10 points from him. You are all being far too harsh. This game was a very winnable one with just one change and that is Maher playing. Adelaide did a shocking job of shooting the ball but give them some credit for the work they did restricting the opposition. Having said that, I would not have given Chappell any more time than what he got. He well and truly underachieved in the time he did get. Ice, how many more chances do you think he should be given to save himself?

Phil has got to have a good look at himself and remember what it took to win games, the players he bought in this season have not played out a total four Qtrs all year and let to many teams back into the game especially at home, you need a killer instinct .Chappell can contribute atleast he drives and penetrates to the bucket who else can we say does that.Phil please work out some plays to utilise the players you have and work on the players rotation in defence , to many times have we been burnt by the give and go or found a smaller man on a tall, teams at the moment can sence were weak and there for the taking hence build there confidence around that. Down the clutch when the game's on the line you must play your best five on that day regardless of fitness it's all or nothing baby, I dont think Phil has got that right just yet .Brett please hurry back!

EC, the fact of the matter was Maher wasn't there so there is no point in saying we could of won if he was there. They ain't gonna put an astrix on the ladder next to this loss saying "MDNP - marked it as a win any other time with Maher"

Play as a squad, die as a squad regardless of who is out or in.

The game was winnable from when the NBL released the draw. The Crocs roster outside of JR and Homicide is very average. The facts are we shot badly, we suck on offense due to poor structure and confidence, poor rotations of the players, going by 123's theory the rings are crap and they played with more determination and heart plus they wanted the win more that Adelaide.

The only 'harsh' thing is watching this shipwreck called the Adelaide 36ers play...

TR, would you say the poor shooting in this game was consistent with every game? Ng is not usually shooting that bad, neither is Copeland although he can be hot and cold. It was particularly bad in this game, the difference being atleast the 10 points they lost by. Off course this game was a loss and that is how it is recorded but you have to draw some positives out of it because there were. Its a huge positive that the 2 best Crocs were restricted to a low scoring game. They got a worse deal here in Adelaide than they did in Melbourne. The problems faced in this game are the same problems faced every game and that is a few players in particular are not pulling their weight. So much so that it can not be compensated by the others. There needs to be some changes made to the roster before any improvements can be made.

Soulman... What it took to win back then was breaking the salary cap and spending the states basketball money... Dont you realise we had 2 NBA calibre players in Brooks and Mee when they won those 2 titles plus a few guys that represented Australia. It was a marquee team my friend. THose days are over now we need a coach.

EC, missing Maher is balanced by a shocking game from Rillie and Williams for Townsville.