pointless trade.there the same player.

Cheeze - I would say kirilenko is a better defender. might add some defence to Phoenix who will never win a title on offence alone. Spurs have shown defence always beats offence at playoff time.

even if the trade tips the scale even a lttle bit - isn't is worthwhile for Phoenix?

Sorry, but I agree with thedoc AK is a much better all round player than Marion.

But you're basing your assessment on stats, and like you said stats aren't everything.

Being a good player defensive or offensive isn't just about stats, defense could simply be shutting your man down, and Marion doesn't do that.

Id go kirilenko over marion any day. AK-47 brings more to the table than marion does.

That last comment wasnt biased or nething! haha

AK47 would fit perfectly in the Sun's system. He is able to play in a half court game system that the Spurs apply, and IMO with him the Suns will win more games against the Spurs. But with Shawn Marion if u take away the transition game, he basically becomes stationary and goes from All-Star to Ruben Patterson.

Anyways Shawn Marion would be horrific in the Jazz's system, thus that's why the Jazz won't do that trade unless they offer a package.

Has everyone forgot about AK47's meltdown last season? I mean he played some good games in the Conf. Semi-Finals, but was nothing more than a role player in other games. It is a big assumption that his productivity will magically pick back up in the Suns system...

I mean, it could work, he would add some tough D the Suns need. But Marion is also a crowd favourite, if you trade him then AK sucks, the fans will revolt.

They're very similar players.. both get defensive stats but cant play lockdown d, both can hit the occasional j and finish well. Marions a slightly better rebounder and less injury prone, but AK has a bit more of a 1 on 1 game. Not much point unless they want some fresh faces.

Phoenix needs Shane Battier

Andrei is a very emotional player who lost his way last year through frustration , high maintenance , definitely , wife is not apparently , very generous at least once a year .
Point is , if someone can nab him in a trade and make him feel wanted he will be back to the AK-47 of old .
Marion is a better player but Kirilenko could add the x factor to phoenix that may push them over the edge .
NASH , BELL , BARBOSA , HILL , DIAW , KIRILENKO , STOUDEMIRE is an excellent 7 . A PJ BROWN would help the locker room and i think this team would challenge SAS .

Marion is a better 3pt shooter and rebounder than AK.

AK is a better defender and shot blocker than Marion.

Marion is a better fit for both the Suns and the Jazz

To try to add defence and win a championship before Nash's back completely seizes up.

Phoenix are really no better than last year, and won't win the whole thing until they add defence.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3029816

kirilenko says he will quit the NBA and forego $64M - yeah, right.

I'd say he's pulling a Charlie Bell - say your heart's not in it and see if your team will let you go.

See what happened to Charlie Bell though doc, the Bucks matched the Heats offer. IMO they will match it and then trade him somewhere so they don't lose him for nothing.

Pretty much what I thought Bizzy, but his agent Barlstein is pretty happy the Bucks matched.

It's a pretty strange contract, $18 mill over 5, but it's cheap for what he brings to the table. It's the type of contract that could be used as a decent filler for something bigger..

CV and Bell for ????

Marios a better defender than kirilenko. Its not Marions fault amare cant show over picks (v parker). Kirilenko can get blocks and steals, looks good on the sheet, but marion can lock down.

And better passer? Where did you get that from? The between the legs pass he did the carlos boozer? He wouldnt get to show his supreme passing skills at phoenix anyway, because Nash always has it.

phoenix wont win this year anyway.

and they already challenge SAS. Only team not to be demolished by them last year!

Phoenix need chris anderson if they want to win

I wonder though, if phoenix trade Diaw + trade exemption will utah go for that. AKs stocks are low at the moment, its about time this stupid club (phx) made a big move (no that doesn't include Grant im number 33 cos thats how many games a season i play Hill)

Ok enough posting for me!