13 - 15..

how about giving break down under 14 upwards boys/ girls

Does anyone know where I can download the beep test in mp3 format?

use something like CDex to convert it to MP3
http://cdexos.sourceforge.net/download.html

Firstly there are a couple of different "beep tests" out there, so make sure you get the right one (any in Aus should* be the same, I think it was European had a slightly diff version from memory, could be wrong).

Any way I have some data from about 99 I think (ok a little old)...

Female given as average (range)
ACT avg 9+10 (8+2 - 11+5)
NSWIS U17s 9+9 (7+7 - 12+13)
SASI 10+7 (8+10 - 12+3)
WAIS and national 11+1 (8+2 - 14+1)

Male
ACT 13+7 (12+2 - 15+2)
SASI 13+4 (10+3 - 14+13)

then a combined DNSP group
SAC (2006)
under 14/16 Boys 8+2 (6+1 - 12+6)
although that group had 2 kids out of 8 get 6+1 and 6+2 real avg is normally around 8 (those two were injured)
Girls 14/16
7+0 (6+2 - 8+4)

I have a general Aus Guide that says VO2 max

Boys
12s poor<46 Avg47.9-51.5 Ex53.4+
14s poor<46.1 Avg49.8-53.4 Ex55.3+
16s poor<40 Avg44.9-49.7 Ex54.6+

Girls
12s poor<36.7 Avg40.8-44.8 Ex48.9+
14s poor<33.5 Avg37.6-41.6 Ex45.7+
16s poor<33.4 Avg37.1-40.7 Ex44.4+

(there is a fair in between poor and avg, and a good between avg and excellent, so if it falls in the "gap" that is what it is)

Now I will help you convert this to Beep test scores

Beep = VO2
5+2 = 30.2
6+2 = 33.6
7+2 = 37.1
8+2 = 40.5
9+2 = 43.9
10+2 = 47.4
11+2 = 50.8
12+2 = 54.3
13+2 = 57.6
14+2 = 61.1
(I have the full chart if you need it, but thought I'd give you a rough guide)

On a side not I would be careful about using this test as your only test for basketball, there are many tests I would consider more important than a beep test, yes this may be an easy test to run, and can give you some info. However there are many components of fitness used in basketball, this is only one of them. Good luck.

PS I would be using the institute data rather than the general, but thought you might like it. So 18 girls look around the 10+ mark, your best girls may get 13-15 as Kobe mentioned, but I would suggest you are very lucky to get a handful of girls in that range at this level.

U18 girls should be aiming for 11 minimum and if they are your guards should be aiming for 12.
All NITCP and AIS testing is now done using the Yo Yo Test. This is similar to the beep but more basketball specific. Scores should be 5 levels above beep test scores.

These tests are only as good as the observers and can give some extraordinary result by allowing early starters who beat the beep each time or half metre short of the beep finishers to continue for way to long.

You dip your yoyo biscuit into the coffee with 11 sugars and out again. Repeat if not soggy enough.

You know you have overdone it when only half the yoyo comes out!

wouldnt mind knowing the record at SASI/State level?

i only know my age group and Todd Matthews was the best in my time.

think he did 15.4?

Once heard someone say that Joel Goodenough got 16 many years ago, but don't know the truth in it.

16 thts crazy....i got 13.8 the other day n thought tht was pretty good

i got 14.9 the other day as i splay soccer for victoria i thought it was pretty hard actually so i duno if ill ever get 16??

Hi
My 12 yr old son did the beep test at school the other day and got 13.1 is this good for a child that age? His nearest rival only got 9 something

Does anyone know where i can get hold of a beep test cd?

download the beep test off the net. Once you've got it convert it to MP3 and then you should be able to burn it to CD... hope it works!!

Some beep tests are horny!

i am 13 and got 12.7

julia is hot as

i got 21.14

Whats the difference between the 15 & 20 metre beep test. I know its a stupid question but I got 12.5 on the 15 at 41 yrs of age what would the equivalent be on the 20?? Cheers

Hmm, interesting Lynn, I haven't seen a 15 m beep test before. How did you run the test? Did you just use the 20 m beep test tape but run over 15 m? How/where was this used.

If this is the case you could do a relatively simple conversion (if you have the right info), converting the speed you ran at, and convert to an equivalent 20 m score, it could give you an approximate estimate, which would be pretty close to your "true" beep test score. Obviously depending on your turning ability with a shortened distance, this could produce some error, however I believe marginal.

Basically you are finding your MAS (however with turns, as MAS is usually done on an oval) and converting to give your score. If you follow. Again this depends on if you ran the test the way I guess you ran it, but again I haven't seen anyone run it this way.

Hope that helps.

I am 13 and did the beep test for sasi... im in under 16 girls and got a score of 12.7 i was wondering what the average was?

ITA

Just cause you don't see 15 beep tests from bballers does not mean they are not done. Come to concordia when they do them for footy and see real 15 yo athletes do 16's - real footballers.

Bball is good grounding for them till under 16's. What is the name of the lad that went back to play for sturt 16's for the state champs and the classics but has given it away again to concentrate on his footy - he does 15+s they say. Didn't need SASI. Pity is he should have beeen in state team if best team was picked - thats old ground anyway, and boring !

iam 14 110kg and i done the beep test up to s level of 14.3 the clostet to me was a 12.4 i think this is a good score

I'm 14 years old and I got 10 on my first try

umm what should a 13 year old get in the beep test???
and were could i download it from???
thanks

You can find WMA and MP3 versions of the Beep test here:

http://www.army.gov.au/artc/fitness.html#initial

I dought people got the results they are claiming. Phoenix suns point guard steve nash got 14 this year and he is a elite athlete. Blair claimed he beat this. Judd got 15.1 back at the 2007 draft camp.

Here is a link of some sports persons scores.
http://www.topendsports.com/testing/beep-scores.htm

Sorry mades some typos Judd got 15.1 in the 2001 draft camp and spelt doubt wrong.

142293 read it again; I never questioned a 15 as that would estimate a relative VO2 max of about 65 ml/kg/min, good but hardly unrealistic. As Lynn mentioned a "15 meter beep test", I asked how this was run as haven't ever heard of it. So I don't know what you are talking about "real footballers" lol.

158570 the beep test gives an estimate of relative maximal oxygen uptake. These although very good scores are hardly unrealistic for the top end junior kids (although blair at 110 kg would be a fit 110 and at 14, I can agree that is very questionable, but not impossible). The fact Nash is an elite athlete is hardly relevant (looking at the sport he plays), as you look at the physiological demands of the sport, and it does not require an aerobic capacity above a threshold level (ie yes is important to an extent, but over and above you are wasting your time, as you need other attributes). So he would not be spending a lot of time on this when in a game he is going to take 997 ± 183 short movements with 105 ± 52 of these being high intensity with duration of about 1.7 seconds (McInnes, et. al, if you were wondering) (and I would suggest these would be more crucial points in the game for him). So I would suggest obtaining a VO2 max of an elite athlete is not difficult when you pick an athlete that probably doesn't spend a lot of time training it.

It is a bit like saying I have a higher vertical jump than a marathon runner, and then you saying that this is impossible because a marathon runner is an elite athlete. True they are elite athletes, but probably don't train for a big vertical hey. Now if I said I had a better beep test score than a marathon runner or a bigger vertical than a basketballer, well then I would be happy for you to call me out on this as BS.

I really would like to download the beep test and ive tried ALLLLLLL the websites above but got no results, are there ANY other sites ANYONE knows of????
How do you get better at the beep test???

when i was nine i got 12.7

When I was 9 I got 15 - naw 10.9 is pretty lame

i got 9.7 but i weigh 120kg tho and im 14 thnks for replying if u do k

Im 14 and i got 14.3 and my VO2 max is 68.9

Everyone is getting wierd at our rugby league training if u dont get at least 15 i'm talkin any position except prop u need to work hard on fitness and we r only 15 year olds and everyone on our team usually gets at least over 16 everytime
and i always get 19 or 20

Then you have it set wrong bro.

Tom Rischbieth who was on Port Powers list (plays for Sturt in SANFL) holds the AFL draft camp record with 15.8 i think. So all you 12 yr old kids that think thats a correct score...your not doing it right.

the highest in australia is robert harvey who scored a 17.5 many years ago! sorry guys

some people get confused with that and the yo - yo test

KK, I am 15 and my test score was 2.5
The highest score in my class was 13- adn shes a basketball/soccer player,so I dont know what you 12-13 year olds are talking about

My son is a gifted athlete playing top level in Basketball and Football. He averages 13 and 14's, he stated to me that the cones are 20 metres apart not 20 feet.He also found it easier doing the Beep test for basketball as he can consistently judge his slide on courts compared with grass footy fields. I know Tom Risbeith he is a great athlete can find the ball,Fitness is important their are other facets just as important they are commitment, desire, durability, nutrition, luck and parent commitment to succeed.

I did the Bleep Test at school and got too level 11 shuttle 1, my P.E teacher dose it by the book 20 metre's apart some people cheat and only mesure out 15 metre's or something.

High 13's low 14's are what elite 15 year old athetes achieve. We test using the AFL program and even Tom as mentioned above achieved only slightly higher. What people must realize is that the kids when tested have already done a 3km run in around 11 and a half minutes. It is one thing to do a beep test but to do one after a run is another step up and that preceding agility and jump testing. We watch these bball kids closely as a lot will end up playing footy and the best one so far wins the beep at both codes achieving high end 13's and then backs up with high 2's for 20 metre sprint straight after. It is cyclic and the funny thing is even after all this testing one glaring thing stands out. It does not matter how fit they are if They don't have ball sense or can't get the ball it is irrelevent. Our data shows that kids that perform to a high level at multiple sports are more likely to reach elite level at one of them, hence our encouragement for them to play other sport.

Fitness Coach - your words of wisdom are lost on many - they believe it is all about the fast and agile in this game. Some kids that are playing elite at younger ages are there mainly based on the speed in which they can get up and down a court and I see these kids shoot and they cant shoot an outside shot for peanuts. Cant take a left handed layup in a game,and shoot the ball with the opposition on their favoured side instead of changing and shooting with the opposite hand. A lot also can't grasp the concept of some of the plays. So until Coaches look at kids that can shoot the outside shot, take left handed layups, can grasp the plays, know how to change hands to shoot when the opposition is on the shooting side, all the input put into these so called elite athletes is time and money wasted, because they will drop out at U18 and go and play the other code.

The irony is that the time and effort should have been spent on the kid with the Basketball brain, who does get the plays, who can shoot the outside shot, take left and right handed layups and rise to the occasion when under pressure. It would be far easier and make more sense to give these type of kids more fitness training than give it to a kid with no basketball brain, who will drop out because the coach is yelling at him/her all the time.

Fitness coach, you might like to think about why you run the beep test. I would question why you ran it after a 3 km run, it is not a "step up" all you are doing is collecting data which you now cannot use to re-test the same kids unless you are always going to run a 3 km run before it. Depending on what you mean by "after" (I assume you mean same day not straight after) your athletes will be in some sort of fatigued state (which is then hard to replicate the same level of fatigue every time), and it is likely you will underestimate maximal oxygen uptake. The beep test is a test, and one of many tools used for collecting data to be used to asses athletic ability. Thus it should not be performed in a fatigued state if you intend to use the data.

Also I think most "fitness coaches" would question the order of testing putting any sort of agility and jump testing after a beep test. I certainly wouln't as you will be underestimating their ability in these other areas making your athletes look poor, and again introducing error into these tests. I would be interested to see your TEM for these jump/agility tests or some repeat data, I am guessing you would have larger errors than if done fresh each time, as again they will be at a different stage of fatigue each time depending on how hard they pushed the beep (if they truely went to max or dropped out when it was hard or they got to desired level) and how long after the beep they are tested.

ITA

We do them monthly. The 3k run is done at the start of training when the boys are "fresh". The beep test i the last activity of the training. In between the boys do agility and jump testing as per the AFL draft camps. fatigue does not come into the equation as the athletes are at a certain level. I am talking about 15-16 YO boys that have done or been involved in solid pre season programs at SANFL league clubs. I know of 3-4 boys playing U/16 bball that have done solid preseason at footy and they are leaps and bounds ahead of any bball only kid - that is not a criticism only an observation.

It is a very interesting topic - yet again I agree with anon above that we should be spending more time on the kids with the "sports brains" turning them into athletes as this makes more sense. Footy has reverted back from trying to make athletes footballers as you cannot make them smarter.

Fitness coach, sorry for the late reply, I haven't been on hoops for a while.

Regardless of what level your athletes are, the human body essentially works the same. While they may be able to complete the tests after a 3 km run for time, I would argue they would get better scores if done before. Now I won't go into the physiology, but if you look at the recovery time for a max effort of 11-12 minutes (the time your runs are completed in), and the effects this may have, I would assume you would be getting lesser scores in your agility and jump testing after such a run. I had read your initial post as they did it after the beep as well, which I would definitely expect to make a difference to those tests regardless of what type of athlete they are (hate to be the one to tell you, but yes fatigue is an issue even in your athletes). Why are you running both a beep test and a 3 km run anyway? What new information are you hoping to get from each test that the other won't give? I'm curious.

I am interested in what you mean by "leaps and bounds ahead" as the two sports are inherently different, and the physiological demands are different (and even position dependant in both sports I think you will find). It frustrates me when I see people make such comments, when there is no data given and is just an assumption that could be interpreted in any way. For example, you could say they have a significantly higher beep test score (p<0.01) etc (now I just made that up as an example, don't quote that). You could compare other attributes from other tests in the same way, but "leaps and bounds" gives no meaningful information. Although, not a criticism only an observation ;) that is generally all you will get out of most footy coaches.

Aim for the maximum, forget about averages or you will always be average.

Aim for the max and become the best, think this way in life and you can achieve anything.

Im 23 in the marines but can get 16.3 .....Still a long way off but im working at it.

Its down to you how good you become, victory comes to those who sacrifice to achieve it ;-).
Push yourself physically and mentally and you will be surprised at what you can do!

Where can i get the beep test!

i'm 12 and got 12.3

hey the beep thes is sooo cool im 12 years old and i got up to 12.7 its sooo fun for anyone that hasnt done it before give it a go rock on man

Hey im just wondering what should 11-12 year olds be scoring on the beep test????? Thanx if u reply

hey dylan!! did you used to go to birminham primary school??

yeh im oli i got 13.2 and i've just tuned 14 this was for an elite afl training group and is the one hey did at the draft camp is this good??

You can download it at
http://www.defence.gov.au/army/hq8bde/jobs/fitness.htm

However, this is the Ozzy one, and for adults, so I dont know about the kids/teens version.

i got 2.6 today and im 13. lol, i am soo unfit, and i also play netball. i really need to work out more!

I'm 14 , and did the aussie 15 meter bleep test, got 18+11. i dont no the diff so is this good?

Hey, I am 12 and I did 14.12 is that fine enough or should i pace my self more of something

WR, if that's true you could go to the AFL Draft Camp next year and beat everyone there. doubt it is though.

I'm 10.1 lol.

im only 14 in yr 10 nd im doing gcse p.e the highest score for the girls was level 9 the highest for the boys was level 12

its weird at our school average for 15 yr old is like 8 or 9... i stopped on 6.9 on purpose

To mike the Marine,
just read your comments and i love your words, all you kids out there you should print this out and be inspired because talent is one thing but commitment and work ethic is the key. My son is very fit and 13yo his average is in the 11s. He does a beep test every three months. NO CHEATING. The average school kid would do around the 8 to 9s.

I Got 8.2 and am 15 lol

Hey... Sorry to reignite an old thread. Does anyone have a copy of the Yo-Yo test?

i done beeo test at school today half a basketball court so 20m i got 14.4 teacher reckons im in top 10% in WA but i dnt do any training im naturally fit for a 15 yr old i only weight 55kg though

1/2 a basketball court is only 14 Metres.

Needs to be fron the baseline to the opposite 3 point line.

dude the FIBA beep test is where its at. 86 lap pass mark

what is a good beep level for a boy in year 3.eight years old?

I got 15.1 when i was 12 for school, but haven't taken the test in a while but i bet i could get about 17 right about now, cuz ive been training pretty hard for hockey

im 13 and got 14.8,best in the city beat that 13 year olds

you all have to chill,
you werent there when they did the test so you cant say its not true.
a 14 year old boy at my school got 13.1 and the record at our school was by a 18 y.o guy who got 17 and they werent cheating
and im not sayiong this beacuse im good..i only got 7 so...

I got 21 and then had a heart attack and died. LOL,u know I am lying.

I got 14.2 at 15 yrs ald

Im 14 and yesterday I got 14.1. Is that good? I was also wondering what the average for a 14 year old is?

umm year O.o I got 8.1 and I am 11..... that really sucks.... well at school I got the highest all the girls got less that 6 so YAY.. I guess

The Beep test is not neccessarily the only or the best test of cardio vascular fitness for Basketballers - The Yo Yo test is much better suited and used by SASI.
So the Beep test will probably be used less and less in the future.

Perhaps BSA, SACB and JDO's could get this info out to their coaches via coaches development and courses so they utilise the yo yo test and stop using outdated and unsuitable tests such as the beep test for a more relevant and reliable test for basketball such as the Yo Yo test. The Beep test is stil being
used at state trials by some state basketball coaches.