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123abc
Years ago
36ers V Kings
Big match, the Sixers need a win but i doubt it will happen. I tip Kings by 13
What do you think the starting 5 will be on who do you tip to win?
123abc
Years ago
Big match, the Sixers need a win but i doubt it will happen. I tip Kings by 13
What do you think the starting 5 will be on who do you tip to win?
Isaac
Years ago
Game underway.
36ers down 5-12 after five minutes. Looks like Cooper is playing and Majstrovich and Ng started.
billups 1
Years ago
well thats a positive start to the match! jokes, 23 - 7 3mins left in the 1st.
We're not going too well.
Is there any radio coverage?
123abc
Years ago
26-9 Sixers down by 17.
Very nice indeed.
not....
Playoffs are officially SCREWED.
Mutley
Years ago
34-10 down, less than 2 minutes to go first quarter. Yes Phil, we have to "keep winning".
billups 1
Years ago
For some reason i smell a blowout! They should let Dodman run loose, after all they have got nothing to lose do they?
We simply dont have the artillery this year, and even more so now without willie to be super competitive.
glen ooh aah rib cracker
Years ago
give the boys a chance to gel -so what kings out to a bit of a flyer game will settle
back by 10 by half time be good result
Squid
Years ago
At least Ng has started well again - Phil should take the boy off
Mutley
Years ago
Quite right Squid, can't have anyone hitting more than one shot in a row!
Jesus Christ we suck!
Squid
Years ago
Back to 15 now, here we go! As that courtside announcer said one this season when we were about 25 points down with less than a minuet to go "come on sixers fans, let's bring em home!" I could not believe my ears that night!
Isaac
Years ago
Similar story in Melbourne with the Tigers getting out to a 9-0 start before the Breakers pulled it back - currently 33-29.
36ers trail by 18.
Surely Maher won't be scoreless at half-time? Has just been subbed out for Sutton.
You'd think Smith, when he's on, is covering Maher?
123abc
Years ago
How many freaken 3pt shots have the Kings made?
It's like a 10-1 ratio.
Isaac
Years ago
Have the live scores frozen? Or has there been an incident on court?
Isaac
Years ago
53-31 at half-time. Worthington 12, Smith 10, Beasley, Hinder 9. For Adelaide, Ng with 9, Horvath 8.
Maher scoreless.
Boards: 30-19 favouring Sydney.
im gonna put it out there and say that we will come back and win.
123abc
Years ago
"im gonna put it out there and say that we will come back and win."
Kings 64-Sixers-41
so much for that.
Mutley
Years ago
I see where you are going with this Squid, but I think it would be Maher on Smith, and Majstro on Worthington.
123abc
Years ago
There both getting the sh*t beaten out of them that's for sure.
123abc
Years ago
i have been trying all year. All the petrol is gone.
Sixers have 10 fouls against them this quarter (3rd) to the Kings 1
123abc
Years ago
31pts the difference now. Another foul from the Sixers, 11-1
Mutley
Years ago
Anyone want to take a stab at the final margin? I'll say 42.
thomo
Years ago
i notice erik burdons not on the list wasnt he brought into the side ? if so why isnt he over there,
Mutley
Years ago
Only allowed to suit 10 players for the road games Thomo, 12 for home games.
123abc
Years ago
50 points my tip.
Can the match/entire Sixers season get much worse?
thomo
Years ago
thanks mutley wasnt sure on that one but figured it would be something like that
123abc
Years ago
"Can the match/entire Sixers season get much worse?"
It just did. Kings 40 points up...
Where's that morphine...
Kwest
Years ago
Nothing has surprised me this season since that first Sydney game. I knew the team wasnt going anywhere after that game. Seems silly because it was only one game - but there was something that just really stood out about the direction the season would take.
Mutley
Years ago
I would like to revise my estimate to 60. Horvath has fouled out. Smart move, I wouldn't want to be out there at the moment.
Peter
Years ago
I can't recall the Sixers' lowest score in a game but it must be under threat unless things change?
Without having seen the games, since Farley's been out, I wonder if Maher receiving more defensive attention than he usually gets? His stats seem to have been a bit down since the Perth game.
Isaac
Years ago
Agreed. Had they won that first Sydney game, we would be looking at a different season, IMO.
36ers heading for a very low score at this rate.
Breakers slipping behind to the Tigers, down 80-74 with a quarter and a bit to run. Pepper has 29.
joshuapending
Years ago
where is the trainer, throw in the town and stop this fight. I really cant believe that a pro team can loose by this much, sure they have more depth but have some pride slow the game down and try and grind.
123abc
Years ago
You mean when Maher slipped?
Maher slips, the Sixers slip.
Kwest
Years ago
Without doubt he would be getting more attention. Who else do teams need to guard? Nash? Sutton? ha
fess
Years ago
looks like a night of records here,lets guess the crowd size for next home game,issac could give a ball to the closest
Mutley
Years ago
It just occurred to me that Smyth will have a hard time blaming THIS on Farley.
Squid
Years ago
Smyth will find something, guaranteed! Perhaps one of the basketballs went flat at training. That will do.
123abc
Years ago
let me guess...
20 for Sixers players and management,14 for the opposing team add ten supporters of the opposing team and you get...
A crowd of 44
what players, coach and management not included?
Then 10.
Squid
Years ago
At least Darren NG has showed his undoubted ability to score in the last couple of games.
joshuapending
Years ago
correction "throw in the TOWEL" just had to do that or i would go nuts. i say final margin will be 47 points. What is our lowest score?
Squid
Years ago
123abc, don't forget that peanut who struts around with the mic at the start of games saying things that no-one has any chance of even hearing - not that we would want to might I add.
Wonder how Mal is feeling tonight
123abc
Years ago
OMG!!!!!!!
5-1 run for Sixers.
YAY!!!! WE ARE BACK!!!
We are going to win!!!!
Oh wait, we are down by 41 i wonder why. Oh, that's why, Smyths the coach.
KingJames
Years ago
Another pathetic performance by the Sixers. It's not like it is an unfair balance with Sydney having barlow out and us having Farley out. I think the worst thing to come out of this is possibly that Maher might learn towards moving to another team based on tonights game. He has 2 points so far and would be thinking why end his career in a loser team like this! He deserves way better! If Smyth gets another year as coach that would be a travesty after the joke of a season he has had! No excuses anymore Smyth! Take full responsibility for a change!
Squid
Years ago
Well the final margin 40 points. Not so bad really keeping the loss to less than 7 goals!
KingJames
Years ago
lol @ Squid! Fair call! Perhaps Smyth could use that to shrug off the loss
Ah well this year is over, but we'd better put in a better showing next season. We just had a crap off season this year and it set us up for crap performance for the rest of the year. We need to sort out our roster and hopefully sign a beast of an import who will dominate for us. Someone of a carlos powell type calibre.
Squid
Years ago
Brett Wheeler's signing was a real plus for us though!
Mutley
Years ago
As I said earlier, good to see Dodman getting some playing time, though it would be better if it could happen infront of a home crowd.
Good work from Darren Ng, and David Cooper. Again, only 10 shots for Horvath, yet Maher and Timmons (who hit nothing between them) combine for 19. Nash offensively impotent as always. Looks like Majstro tried hard (he'll be rewarded by being removed from the starting lineup for the next game). Sutton's numbers are ok.
The Wheeler thing has worked out well, hasn't it?
I dont think we try very hard to find the best possible player for the allocated amount of salary we are looking to give to a player. It seems as though we settled on signing wheeler, whereas we probably could have found a better, and LESS INJURY PRONE player for the same amount of cash.
Loco
Years ago
Is anyone else finding it incredibly difficult to watch / support this team - despite over a decade of loyalty?
Kwest
Years ago
I dont find it that difficult to watch them. Its more that I just dont care. Other than Maher and Farley when he is on, I dont really enjoy watching any of the other guys play. It doesnt really bother me that they lose, because I would expect a team with so many mediocre players to lose a lot of games.
anonymous
Years ago
Kwest this is a team that the coach felt could win a championship. A team that the coaching staff put together and were very cofident in.
EC
Years ago
How productive was Timmons in 23.14 minutes? Looking at the box scores, I see a team who has already given up the rest of the season. You try your hardest to support them throughout the year, but its difficult when they don't show any pride in what they do. Ng was the only outstanding player tonight. We were only missing Farley. I deliberatley didn't count Wheeler because he has done nothing for the team all season. He has been the equivalent to a huge speeding fine, a lot of money to pay and nothing to show for it.
Kev
Years ago
Would the 36ers have actually been paying him at that 'normal rate' of $100k for the season for the games he's been on injury waivers for? If so, then why did we hire someone so injury prone. If not, then given we have only paid him for about 13 or 14 games from the 26 or so we've played, that's only $50k lost, I guess?
I think they signed Wheeler because he fits the age category that they were looking for
Isaac
Years ago
In the NBA, teams have long rosters. When getting blown out, they can throw in some fringe players who are full of energy and will go their hardest to show the coach what they can do.
Our bench in this game: Lanard Copeland, Marcus Timmons, Mark Nash, Matt Sutton, Jordan Dodman.
Beasley, 15 and 17 rebounds in 24 minutes...
Always interesting to get the view of opposition fans on OzHo:
Dodman - Was reasonably useful in his few minutes, mostly because he was the only Sixer physically capable of standing up to Beasley.
TR
Years ago
I'm glad I went to a mates 30th birthday lunch, got blind and missed my flight to Sydney hence missing the game..... what pisses me off is the $120 I paid for the tickets and the $100 return flight that I wasted......
Isaac
Years ago
Adelaide Now:
Only a final three-pointer from Adelaide's Matt Sutton enabled it to edge ahead of its lowest-ever NBL score of 72 set against Wollongong in January 2005.
skudpud
Years ago
Everyone that sits here and blames a coach for a pathetic player porformance shows daily how little they know about how sports players should be.
At the level the 36ers are playing if they NEED a coach to tell them what to do and to pick up their games then they are not good enough to be playing social.
If its a coach problem for every loss then tennis players would be screwed..how do any of them win when they aren't able to talk to their coach threw out their matches. How do they win??? They bring THEMSELVES into the game.
This year sucked when the team was under threat, thats why we signed players like Wheeler and Copeland noone else wanted to join a club that might not exist.
If you want to blame someone for this season, blame BASA bad management of a profitable team, and the PLAYERS for not performing.
To say everything is solely on Smyth is pure arrogance and stupidity. The whole team has failed.
Jimmy_The_Snitch
Years ago
^^^^^^ hear we go ^^^^^
On this forum, it's always Phil fault and never the players.
Let the Phil bashing begin.
KingJames
Years ago
You're an idiot skudpud for comparing an individual sport like Tennis vs a team sport like Basketball! Hey with your logic we shouldn't even need a coach!
Jimmy The Snitch, I don't know what forum you have been reading but there has been many post blaming the players for continuous poor performances!!
The fact that we are probably going to finish second to last has nothing to do with the coach???!!!! The fact that he probably gets more money then any player, yet according to you two guys it seems he has minimal impact to do with the teams performance?
So a coach makes no difference? How about compare Adelaide with Perth. Perth probably has a less talented team compared with Adelaide yet are 2nd on the ladder, compared with Adelaide who are basically 2nd to bottom. What is the difference? One coach gets the best out of his players, instills motivation and confidence, does the right scouting of other teams, knows who to put on etc etc Can you guess which coach that would be?
Mate, EVERYBODY needs to stand up and be accountable from the players, to the management and yes, the coaches.
I think the thing that gets people riled up is the apportioning of blame to others when everyone needs to put their hand up!
So, in my case, certainly not just "Phil bashing" as you so eloquently put it, but it would be nice to stop hearing excuses and hear some responsibility taken.
Squid
Years ago
Wayne Phillips could always take over next season as I am pretty sure he will be out of a job by then!
A 40 point loss should not be tolerated by anyone. Half the teams in the cental ABA could have put up a better effort against the kings than what the sixers managed.
skudpud
Years ago
Yeh with my Logic top sportsman should not need a coach at games. Coaches are their to spot what a player needs improvement on, not to cuddle them and motivate them.
Ive competed at high levels in both Individual sports (Swimming) and Team sports (Rugby). In both sports the coach was there to point out and help with improvement, not to motivate people.
If you want me to compare Basketball with another Team Sport, have a look at cricket, the captain and players motivate themselves during the game.
Blaming coaches is an excuse for the Management and useless supporters, it happens in the AFL and to much on this forum and in Basketball in general.
You mention perth having a bad team, your saying the players all suck but because they have a good coach they suddenly become a good team, what crap. How about the fact that maybe the players are under rated and play well of each other, work with each other.
Its pure psychology, people can tell you what to do but its you that has to do it, a coach cant make you hit a shot, or make the other team miss.
Isaac
Years ago
Skudpud, I strongly disagree and I'd say that the 36ers do too given that they're paying three coaches and their roles include being present at games.
You might want to talk to some NBL players to see what they think - to many, the coach is a crucial part during the week and at games.
How do you think those Wildcats got that team on the same page? Who steers them during games and decides on broader strategical changes in response to what the opponents are doing?
Who scouts the opposition, devises plays and issues instructions to the players?
The coaches are an integral component of the team, without a doubt.
So now Scott Fisher is a good coach?
Wasn't he just a puppet for the Perth Wildcats management when they were losing? (or just before the ALl Star game) But now he has them all on the same page he is a genius.
DrB
Years ago
There is no way KEN DOLL is a good coach! Vlahov is the man behind ken doll.
skudpud
Years ago
Isaac you should notice I said during the games, Yes a coach is important for most of what you have mentioned, but it is not a coach that fails to win games. Players have to motivate themselves and win games. If they need someone on the sidelines telling them what to do, its to late and they should walk away.
Isaac
Years ago
Again, I disagree. Find me a professional basketball team that goes without a coach during games...
Not denying that the players have to shoulder responsibility for their performances, but they don't select the make up of the team, they don't devise strategies, they don't call substitutions, they don't decide on match-ups, they don't always call time-outs, they don't cut tape to scout opponents, etc.
You're also going against every sports movie in history that features a pep talk firing up players for a clutch performance! ;)
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